Pickett Comps: Lawrence or Wilson?

That was a great read! I'll read it again tomorrow when I'm sober!!!!

 

I believe it's a Valentine for Kenny.

 

The Elephant in the room section was scary. If you are an NFL QB you do not want your name mentioned in the same breathe as those guys.

 

He reminds me of a young Dan Marino with smaller hands.

 

Tannehill is much older now as well I don’t see him as an actual viable upgrade. His old lady is good looking though.

 

Well tomorrow does start the weekend

Just saying

 

That’s an interesting read, but very hard to draw much optimism for Kenny from it unfortunately.

As @Blast Furnace said the worst possible outcome is that Kenny improves just enough so they don’t move on, but not enough to make the team a credible factor in the context of the championship.

I look forward to seeing the new look offence and will be rooting for him however.

 

No matter what potential silver lining is portrayed about KFP, I think coaching will help. But I don't think it will be enough for him to overcome some of his bad habits that seem to be fallout from his concussions. He may very well need to speak with a sports psychologist.

To me, the single biggest thing I want to see Tom Arth and Smith help Pickett with is going through his reads quickly and identifying the open receiver. Too many times we've seen replays of check downs or incompletions to blanketed receivers where Pickett failed to identify an open receiver. The o-line is complicit in some of this, but not all. It's year three, and Kenny's not a kid anymore. He has to be much, much better than what we've seen.

 

I’d like to see an offensive scheme designed to create mismatches. Let Kenny read pre-snap, have a primary (mismatch) target and a known fallback if the defense answers the mismatch bait.

 

While these comps are great given how Pickett's Career has played, thing is in Lawrence's case is that Lawrence simply has way too many tools at his disposal to turn it around for his career. He isn't the one many though him to be (myself included) but his overall talent exceeds anything Pickett could ever hope to have. Lawrence just got royally effed over as Jeremy Pike correctly points out; the talent levels between the two the same.


Zach Wilson is nothing more than the classic case of an NFL Team and NFL Owner overinflating specific traits as opposed to looking at the full picture. Granted, the New York Jets have not had a QB to even reach the AFC Championship Game since Mark Sanchez and have not had a QB win it since "Broadway Joe". That said though, from a pure passers perspective, there is a lot more to like about Zach Wilson than there is of Kenny Pickett.


Long story short?! It's put up or shut up time for Pickett. No exceptions.

 

I agree that Lawrence has more physical tools, but he has had a couple years to work himself out of the bad situation he was drafted into with Urban Meyer. He is playing on a playoff caliber team, yet he is putting up pedestrian numbers and is a turnover machine. I wasn't as high on Lawrence as just about everyone else. I think he showed some signs his last couple seasons in college that he was making bad reads and forcing the ball. Turnovers became a problem and the trend has followed him to the NFL. He's just considered a golden child and hasn't received the criticism that he should be getting.

Lawrence has 58 TDs and 39 INT in three seasons. He also has 33 fumbles.

Nobody seems to talk about the fumbles. He can't take care of the ball.

He's a turnover machine and should be hearing about it. He is not. Can you imagine what everyone would be saying if Pickett averaged 13 INT and 11 fumbles a year?

Kenny Pickett has 13 TDs and 13 INT in two seasons. He only has 6 fumbles. He knows how to take care of the ball, and he will be entering his first year without the nightmare coaching situation.

If Trevor Lawrence doesn't clean up his turnovers, Kenny Pickett will have a chance to be a better quarterback than Lawrence IMO.

 

My concern is if we lose Mason and Kenny gets hurt again who is the bad up.

 

Strongly disagree here.


This isn't just the Official CBS Sports Twitter Page that has called him out for his substandard play either. Other major National Media Outlets like ESPN, Fox Sports and others have critiqued him greatly over the course of the season. Long story short, not only has Trevor Lawrence been a disappointment as we both have pointed out but he will likely be playing only for the 5th Year Option for I doubt that Shahid Kahn, Trent Baalke and Doug Pederson will give him a contract north of $45 Million for such porous results.

 

I'm not hearing the national media pounding on Lawrence as much as Kenny Pickett. I hear much more about Kenny Pickett after two seasons with a joke of an OC, and will only now be getting a fresh start in a new offense this upcoming season. Lawrence was given a pass for having Urban Meyer and he has three full seasons in the books and he has been out of his bad situation for two whole seasons. Lawrence is much closer to a finished product than Kenny Pickett is.

In fact, many in the national media still consider him an up and coming superstar and talk about it openly. I watch a lot of national media and listen to sports talk shows. Lawrence has been getting some comments, but his 5 touchdown playoff game from 2022 has given him some immunity from many in the media. They have only started making comments about him now because they missed the playoffs. Six weeks ago, many were still riding that wave with Lawrence. Only after the late season collapse did people even really talk about it. They were saying things like "maybe he's hurt", "He doesn't look right", "Something is off". You know...all the built-in excuses for poor play. Pickett was questioned from the moment he stepped on the field by many. Lawrence just got to the point where he is hearing stuff after three seasons.

 

We are going to have to agree to disagree here.


Major reason why I had chosen the likes of "Swaggu" and Nick Wright was due to the fact that those two are his biggest supporters. Whomever is a close second to either.... is not a very close second. Others such as Colin Cowherd, James Jones, Boomer Esiason and even Rex Ryan (another major Lawrence supporter) have greatly critiqued his play towards the end; injury or not.

 

I know some have questioned him. The difference I am trying to make clear is that it isn't across the board.

Everyone is saying Pickett is a disappointment and breaking down every throw. Not so with Lawrence. There are still people and national media outlets that have been talking up Lawrence all season while he hasn't played well on a talented football team. They still go gaga for the talent they see in his arm and legs. "Wow! Look at that throw. OOOOOOO....Look at the arm strength here!" He just can't put it together on the field, but they don't want to alienate Trevor the Great. Most don't hold back from calling Pickett garbage the way they do with Lawrence.

Just a couple examples:


https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-trevor-lawrence-jacksonville-jaguars-letdown-2023

ESPN writer announced he has arrived: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...ng-jacksonville-jaguars-franchise-quarterback

NFL Network talking about Lawrence week 13 this season: https://www.nfl.com/videos/wolfe-on...s-is-what-makes-this-decision-tougher-the-ins

This from Sports Illustrated in week 15 of this season rating him as the 9th best quarterback: https://www.si.com/nfl/jaguars/news...ore-bout-vs-ravens-patrick-mahomes-josh-allen

Or this one which criticizes, but still talks about potential greatness: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...terback-trevor-lawrence-turnover-problem-2023

 

TBD