Watching Colin Kapernick

What I envisioned our offense being with Kordell Stewart at QB. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.

 

I was just thinking the same thing. if we let kordell be kordell instead of a pocket passer, I think he would have had a good career in pittsburgh. we wasted too much time to develop him into a pocket passer. we had jerome bettis and a pretty good offensive line and receivers.

 

Yeah, this guy seems to be the real deal. I kept waiting for him to stumble, but he has been impressive.

 

what the 49ers are doing is that they are using the qb runs to setup their running and passing game. it's a complete new concept. usually, team run their backs to setup the passing game or the other way around.

 

He is impressive as hell.

 

and by "we" you mean Kevin Gilbride.

 

My only thing is what happens when Colin gets that first big hit..... Then they have to go to Alex and suddenly the 49ers aren't so scary

 

These are great offenses when the QB is healthy, but much like Ben behind our swiss cheese line, one really good pop....and A. Smith is the QB again.

 

A. Smith isn't a bad back up to have... Cam Newton had a big rookie year and then teams figured out how to shut him down. Kapernick will hit a wall eventually and will have to have success in the pocket to counter that....

 

i think once there is more film on him the nfl will figure him out. kinda like cam

 

Sure, an offense like the 49ers fits the Kaepernick/Kordell style, but... you just can't run that kind of thing in the NFL! It's for college! It'll never work!

 

Well, I wonder.... To some degree the QB position in the NFL will have to change, simply because the QB position has changed in college. Nearly every NCAA program has an athletic mobile QB, it's getting harder and harder to find pro-style passer, especially a good one. Lack of supply will require the NFL to figure out a way to use the available skills. I think we're watching the position evolve right before our eyes. The new guys: RG III, Wilson, Kupernik, aren't like Vick or Kordell, they can throw. And they throe first and run second, they don't have 'happy feet' they pick their spots to run. It will be interesting to see what a typical QB looks like in 2025.

In the early days of football, a QB was a running back, who threw as an element of surprise. This was true we'll into the '40s. QBs that run, and by definition have shorter careers and perhaps less vital importance, may be the way of the future.

 

But there is a reason, they can run too. If in the future a QB is an RB who can throw some, and nobody cares today if the star RB get 'blown up', what' s the difference. I just wonder if the notion of the QB as 'the man' is about to change. In the 40's, QBs threw and they ran, HBs mostly ran, but they all threw some too. Back to the future? Passing game by commitee? Maybe we're headed that way. I could be 100% wrong,but football evolves, and in some ways faster than the other sports. As grey beards in 2033, we could be remembering drop back pocket passers as though they were pterodactyls.

 

Yeah, I had him on my fantasy team and he was good (I finished fourth) but I really felt like GBs defense was off. Having said that, I thought he might be a one hit wonder, but so far, he hasnt been.

 

Kordell Stewart couldn't hit the broadside of a barn, he was that inaccurate.

 

Wow, give the guy some credit. He had a hard time reading defenses and got nervous. He was at his best just playing instinctively. Also, never had a QB coach.

 

exactly if i remember well he was an int machine , stats don't lie 77td 84 int , kaepernick is far more accurate , kordell was michael vick with lesser arm

 

I'm not saying they should have played college ball and run the option all day, but they sure as hell could have incorporated it a lot more. There were two AFCCGs. Kordell playing "pro style ball" got us within 3 points of a Super Bowl in 1997, and we outscored the NE offense by 10 in 2001. I'm positive that with a little tailor fitting to Kordell's gifts the offense could have been much more effective. Look at what happened to Alex Smith when they finally fit the offense around him two years ago. He went from being one of the biggest busts of the decade to a Pro Bowl caliber QB. Now he's been replaced because they found a different offense for a different QB that's very dangerous. Even if it only made small differences here and there, that could have been enough for a couple Super Bowls.

 

Yeah and also he's really young too and he's able to bust these runs off like that. I don't think we'll ever see a qb that's able to rely on his legs for a long and fruitful career. I honestly don't put a lot of stock in to these young qbs that come out and run a lot as far as evaluating how good of a QUARTERBACK they are. At this point I would just say that he's a good ATHLETE but the jury is still out on whether he is a good QUARTERBACK. Does that make sense? Just because he can run doesn't mean that he can read a defense and make all the throws that a pro needs to be able to make. Also I think guys that can run sometimes rely on that instead of trying to put emphasis on becoming a better passer. I would use Michael Vick as an example of that. I guess I'm just sort of a fogey when it comes to qbs. I like the guys that play the position in a traditional way for the most part.

 

I don't know. He was hot and cold. I can think of a few passes he threw that were simply amazing throws. There was one that came on a 4th and long against the Pats in 1997 that was an out to Thigpen that was placed perfectly, just beyond the CB's reach, but not too far, as Thigpen dragged his toes on the sideline for a first down. I remember thinking, "Oh we just lost the game, that throw is wide." But it wasn't. Then there was the 93 yard TD to Bobby Shaw, a throw Stewart threaded between two defenders.

But you're right: too often he made bad throws. I always thought he was far better on the move, rolling out. He was NOT a pocket QB. And I will never know who insisted he was: did Cowher try to mold him or was Stewart stubborn and trying to be something he wasn't?

 

kordell had a cannon ... [video=youtube;5Nt6HjqtJt8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nt6HjqtJt8[/video]

 

Jerome Bettis said in his book that the Steelers set Slash up to fail so I would say it was more of a coaching thing. I don't care how things turned out with him he will always hold a special place in my heart because he turned me on to Steelers football. I have another Steeler friend who once told me the same thing and he was sorta ashamed to say that he had ever like Kordell and I was like "dude he was awesome! it's not his fault he got totally misused!"