Jaylen Warren comments on George Pickens’ lack of effort on “block”

Warren would have gone all out to block for Pickens, I have no doubt about that. He’s one of the highest effort guys on the team. George, I hope you’re proud. I don’t care what Tomlin says, this isn’t a maturity issue, it’s a character issue. Character is something Jaylen Warren has an abundance of.

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Tomlin not sitting Pickens just prove how out of control things are.Pickens have proven he's not a team player.
Who the hell would want him on their team..This is why Tomlin has to go, can't build a team with the BS Tomlin is doing

 

From the article:

"George is a talented guy but he's growing and growing in a lot of ways in regards to football and life," Tomlin said, via ESPN. "We don't run away from that. We run to that organizationally when we draft guys. We're committed to being a component of their growth and development in all areas."

Wouldn't a severe punishment like deactivating Pickens possibly help his growth and development as both a person and player? Forget the team, Pickens needs to be punished for his own personal growth. Not punishing him is doing a disservice to Pickens the person.

 

Maybe, when we were growing up we didn't always get the big stick, but always knew it was there.
A "Component" of growing up.

 

Jaylen Warren is 'strap on the helmet and be ready for the entire 60 minutes.' I think he wears his helmet during halftime.
He is an excellent example of character.

Our GM's have to do a better job at looking for characters - guys who aspire to be leaders by example.
Stop drafting bad characters.

The thing I hate about the above quote, it would be one thing if you could see the lessons being taught are practiced, they are not.
That half-stepping attitude that DJ and Pickens have is a cancer and it spreads throughout the team.
I am a fan of benching them, or even take a tip from the Colts and suspend them for the remainder of the season.
We are better off with 22 guys on the field that are all rowing 100% in the right direction.

 

Maybe when these "steals of the draft" fall to the 2nd round and lower there is a reason.

 

Tomlin talks like a man with a paper @sshole.

 

More Jaylen Warren types, please. This guy represents the model of what being a Steeler is suppose to mean.

Spare me the, "Well, there are a lot of guys like that in the league" talk. It's a true statement but it's nothing but an excuse. I don't care about other teams' culture. I care about the Steelers culture. And the culture needs a thorough cleaning. They can start by getting rid of Pickens.

 

I think Warren and possibly Jones can be those leaders that the offense needs. They just need time to grow into and earn those roles.

 

In a different system I believe Warren could be top 5 in NFL.

When season started I thought with Najee and Warren our QB would just have to be average and we'd be looking good. Damn, I had such high hopes

 

Yep, and I’m starting to think that Darnell Washington wasn’t the steal we thought he was in the third round.

 

None of the Offensive Talent, be it Washington, Harris or whomever else, can do much of anything right now. As disheartening as this next comment is, given how long you have known me, I believe I am quite ready for the Season to be over. Something also tells me that the players are as well.


Recall not too long ago how the Los Angeles Chargers gave up on Brandon Staley?! Who's to say it will not happen to Tomlin; assuming it hasn't already taken shape on a smaller scale?!

 

I fully understand your sentiment. I almost feel guilty as a Steelers fan that I’m indifferent toward the remaining games and kind of hope they lose out to end this “non-losing season” charade that the media goes goo goo over. I’m vested in Saturday’s game for one reason. I’d like to see Rudolph play well and re-establish himself at least as a legitimate backup quarterback. He’s had a lot of adversity in his career and has handled it with pure class.

 

I gotta disagree. It's not unusual for 3rd rounders to be invisible during their rookie seasons. TE is also one of the hardest positions to transition from college to the NFL. I think it's too early to lable Washington a bust. If he doesn't show drastic improvement next year then I'll be inclined to agree with you, but for now I'm keeping my hopes up for him.

We all got excited about day 2 picks being the next great Steeler during their rookie seasons only to see their character issues get in the way. I haven't read about any character issues with Washington, so let's give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

Yeah, I don't have an issue with waiting not only for an adjustment to the pros, but to that adjustment being made with a decently coached offense.

 

Maybe, but let's not make the mistake of catering to the drama players either. In other words, maybe Pickens would be a miserable SOB in a number of places. Which flags a need for better vetting on the scouting process. Not defending Tomlin, just saying I've seen a number of drama players that are going to drama no matter where they are. We can all assume a fire and brimstone approach would kick them back in line, but these days not necessarily.

I personally would like a bit more disciplinarian out of the HC. I think it needed not only with this team, but this era. Just saying that there are always going to be outliers that are going to find a reason to be unhappy.

 

Therein lies my own hang up. Tomlins talent acquisition has not been the issue... sans 2018 to 2021 (Colbert also takes blame for this as well). My hang up currently is placing that talent into winnable situations; doubly so within the past three seasons. For Kenny, it wasn't an accident that he had his greatest season in his final season at Pitt. That said, to max out that skill set, you need an OC who can allow him to do so. Clearly, there is not one on the Coaching Staff to do so.


The same would apply to Rudolph as well. Dude was bombs away in the Big XII (though a lot of QBs are) when he declared. Post Randy Ficthner, he is in the same predicament as Pickett; helpless as all hell. Again, I don't think this would entirely change Masons career trajectory myself but he would be in much better respectable standing as you stated if he were given the chance to do so.


In short?! The talent isn't being assisted by the placallying for the play calling is as inefficient as the Offensive Coaches that call them. Again, I would also love for the Steelers to win again. I just don't see much, if any evidence, that such is possible anymore for the duration of the 2023 season.


@Blast Furnace did have a good point about the Defense still buying into Tomlin. I also believe that they have as well. However, as we all saw with Staley, players do have limits of patience. We will just have to wait and see.

 

Kyle Shanahan is an excellent example of a disciplinarian. While he is an extreme example, he does have the track record and success to show for it. One of his great mottos is "no block, no rock". A much better way to state it the following;


"Better give it your all if you want the ball!"


They are basically the same message. The messaging aspect, along with the mentality of said coach is one thing. Which side that Coach excels at, is another all together. It might sound crazy but an Offensive Minded Head Coach may not be as bad of an idea as it sounded 10 to 15 years ago. As it stands currently, sans John Harbaugh, the rest of the AFC Heavy Weights have Offensive Minded leaders. Sean McDermonnt could be the exception but he does have a Connor Bedard like talent in Josh Allen; making Sean's inclusion to the AFC Playoff race an extreme.

 

I'm not saying Rudolph, Pickett, or anybody is the next coming necessarily, but I'm tired as hell of the lack of the Steelers coaching and development team to train and develop them to succeed in the situations they need to win. Anybody can interview a candidate and say "that sounds great!", but if they don't know how 'great' fits in with the entire system you're running, it doesn't add up to much.

 

f that, they are supposed to be professionals, this isn't day care. If you need to grow up then don't come to the NFL. He's only about the money and that is it period full stop!! He's just trying to get to a big contract. As Shannon Sharpe said you don't reward a child's bad behavior, you check it!!

 

I don't have a problem with a coach treating his players as individuals to a point. I would just argue Tomlin's line is too far to that side of the spectrum, such that certain inmates start running the asylum.

Coaching/managing these personalities isn't easy. But the focus has to be what you're putting on the field. That's where scouting, personnel, ... everyone, has to be on the same page.

 

My thoughts exactly.


Doubly so in Kenny's case. Hell, if one of my biggest critiques of him coming out wasn't appearant enough, it sure as all hell is now; dude needs to have a creative play caller for his limitations are noticeable. I was fine on giving Canada a shot in 2022 due to what he had to deal with in whatever remained of Big Ben.


Oh. My. Goodness.... how little I knew of what would come....


Canada being fired this Offseason should have happened in trade for someone like Eric Bienemy. Sadly, this didn't happen. Hopefully this time around, AR II has gotten the message.

 

Too early on this one but Mike McDaniel would be another good example. Players seem to live him no matter which side of the ball it is. As much of nitro glyriecen as Jalen Ramsey is given his track record... even he seems to enjoy McDaniel; possibly even more than he did with Sean McVay, a coach that has often been compared to Tomlin.


Maybe Matt LeFleur would be a best example of discipline and having good relations?! He did have to contend with Aaron Rodgers and is currently operating the youngest Offense in the NFL. Green Bay is in the Playoff Hunt in the NFC no less and LeFleur does have an opportunity to punch his ticket into the Playoffs for Green Bay with the final three opponents; Panthers, Vikings and Bears.

 

I tend to dislike our 1st round picks and think our mid and late round picks are steals and the rest of the league missed out. Rarely works out that way lol.

 

Agree. At some point the question has to be asked and answered as to why so many players on our roster seem to be regressing or at the very least not progressing. I said from the minute Pickett was drafted that I don’t trust Mike Tomlin or Matt Canada to effectively manage a young quarterback’s development. Somewhere along the line, Pickett, Trubisky and Rudolph all had talent to work with. Now they all look like hot garbage. Why is that?