Tomlin has lost the offensive side of the team

It's really not hard to hold people accountable for their actions. I'm sorry, but if I can hold federal convicts accountable for their ongoing behaviour, Mike Tomlin can find a way to hold football players accountable.

It starts with repercussions. If you mess up, there's repercussions. In my situation while working in a prison, repercussions to the inmates include extra time in jail, fines, getting moved to segregation, getting moved to a different jail, etc. I can assure you that they resist far harder than any NFL players do, yet it's my job to stand firm and hold them accountable.

All Tomlin has to do is let the guys know there will be repercussions. It's not rocket science. These guys want to play and want to get paid. Take that away from them. Continue to take it away until they get with the program. If they don't ever get with the program, then they made the choice to destroy their career. If I'm Tomlin, Pickens is not playing next week. I would probably make him play special teams, but that's it. If he doesn't like it, he's free to go work at Walmart. He will be told there will be no trade requests honoured so he can either get with the program or his NFL career can be over.

Not sure why so many people are scared to bench a player who isn't even contributing to winning anyway. We might be better off with a 4th string WR who actually tries hard. Other teams are winning with backups, why can't we

 

This x 1000.

I've said it in the past, and I believe it to this day....Tomlin has said many times that he treats the players like men. Rich mentioned that in this video as well. The problem is, they aren't acting like men, so that doesn't work.

If they'd act like men, treating them like men would maybe work OK. But when they act like spoiled children, treating them like men just enables them. This is a Tomlin problem b/c he lets it go on and isn't doing anything to correct it.

Check Noll is famous for not tolerating a lack of discipline. If a player was that way, Noll would find a way to move on when he could. Tomlin is almost the polar opposite. He can't "force" them to behave or have better attitudes, but he could learn something from Noll's approach.

 

Tomlin won't learn.

it is over for him

 

Tomlin almost always handcuffed our offense, no matter who our OC was and even when our offense was loaded

 

Tomlin inherited Arians. Haley was forced on Tomlin. Tomlin inherited Lebeau.
Outside of those 3 guys, our coordinators have been terrible. Tomlin has no clue how to hire coordinators, or the culture he's setting is killing the team and making coordinators unsuccessful, or both.

Tomlin has not hired a single good coordinator yet. He could have had Flores, but chose to keep Austin over him, a guy fired by the Bengals and Lions.

 

Bench the crybabies, we are losing anyways. Make their stock go down, if someone else wants the headaches. Tomlin really has produced some less than classy players over the last 6-7 years

 

It's both. I've always thought it was both. Maybe that Chuck Noll voice from the past is directing his comments toward the coaching, lol. Right now I think the talent that has been drafted and signed via free agency is struggling with few exceptions. I think many of the players on the roster lack talent. But I think there are plenty of other talented players who are not playing up to their ability and we have to ask ourselves why. I think coaching has a lot to do with that. I said when Pickett was drafted that I didn't trust Tomlin or Canada at all to coach up and develop a young quarterback. Kenny probably came to one of the worst coaching staffs in the league for a young quarterback with potential. Mitch Trubisky was a Pro-Bowl quarterback at one time and led the Bears to the playoffs so we at least know something is in there somewhere. But his play has devolved to the point that it's sucky even by his standards and he has absolutely no confidence right now. Mason Rudolph seemed to have some talent when he came into the league but has not progressed AT ALL. We see other backup quarterbacks around the league who look competent. Why have ours, ALL OF OURS, struggled so mightily? (don't make me break out the church lady meme, lol). You'd think at least one of them could step up and elevate his play. Coaching has much to do with that.

 

Problem I have with this logic is that if you're looking to get rid of a player through trade, the last thing you want is for their stock to go down. You're getting little to nothing for them. Especially a guy like Pickens, who they used a second round pick for.

 

You must be in the land of fruit n nuts…California

 

I agree to a point, but, and this is not saying You, but I have seen like 16 different players want benched. We actually have to have a team to play with, and sometimes benching players not just hurts them, but other players that don't deserve being benched.

 

You got a 2rd pick for Chase. Im a knucklehead Claypool!

 

Speaking of da Bears, we made out like bandits. I certainly dont want to return the favor by taking Fields off their hands.

 

True dat. I wouldn't expect every other team to be as stupid as da Bears though.

 

Indeed

 

Yeah I get that, but I would take poor players that try hard over elite players that don't play hard. For the most part, our guys are trying. It's only DJ and Pickens that have had problems. I know people crap on Muth, but he is what he is. He can't block. I don't think it's effort, the dude just can't do it. He's not bad if you get him into the 2nd level, but he's not going to sit on the line and block DL's. Just not going to happen with him. I don't think that means he's not trying though

 

https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/arti...ayers_dont_want_to_practice/s1_17101_39697219

Sounds like a message issue not getting through to the players. Tomlin cannot relate to the new generation.

 

That's not Tomlin's fault!!!!!

It's not the Head Coaches job to make these guys practice!!!!

 

Who can?

 

The young people at work also don't want to work a full 40 hour week or be in the office. It is the changing mentality and culture when everything in life is served up on a silver platter. Then when they don't get their way they blame others for their deficiencies.

 

I remember not so long ago when Steelers players actually complained about not practicing enough. Man, times sure have changed

 

There is a bunch of young people at my job,21-23 years old you can't say anything to them . Or they get offended..they don't Wana work.... I couldn't count the time I've been called in the office because one of these kids got offended..lol....