Ok, so maybe it wasn’t all Canada’s fault…?!?

It has been interesting to read over the past several weeks and years, complaining about the offensive coordinator, and how Steeler fans thought things would be turned around with just one change.

When the Steelers got some offensive production against one of the worst defenses in the league (bengals) a couple of weeks back, the steeler pundits were saying “I told you so”.

how do you feel now? Perhaps the roster is not there? Perhaps you don’t have a top QB? Perhaps the head coach is partly to blame?

Or, are you now holding onto the argument “but..but…it’s the scheme. We can still be world beaters with these same players if we just had a different scheme.”

 

There is still something wrong with Canada’s offense, defenses were just sending guys up the middle, because A: They knew it would rattle Kenny, and also B: They knew Mason Cole or the Guards wasn’t going to pick the blitz up.

I think a new OC can not only put in better plays, but also give Kenny better protection.

He just needs one or two more seconds to be able to stand and deliver the ball, and I think it will make a world of difference.

 

They are still playing in Canada's offense. The people that took over the offense can't figure out what to do to try to improve it. You can't install a completely different offense in the middle of a season. You can only tweak it and change some plays or add plays slowly each week. The men they put in place to take over the OC duties are still doing their other duties and trying to improve the offense. It's not easy, but it appears they aren't up to it.

A new offense and a new OC needs to be installed going into next season IMO. Maybe a new QB coach. Perhaps added coaching positions by the Steelers ownership. They have a small coaching staff the way it is.

 

How do I feel now? Told you so

 

You’re right. It is still Canada’s offense. Just as under Canada our qb’s are still missing/ignoring wide open receivers. Our wide receivers and tight ends are still playing halfassed football. This is a player issue. We’ve heard it from cam, minkah, and Najee. It won’t change until the players take a long hard look in the mirror.

 

There's a cultural problem in Pittsburgh. It's not just the QB or the OC. It goes higher than that and by default, it lands on Tomlin, even if you don't fully blame him.
Guys aren't even trying out there. Probably doesn't instill a lot of confidence when you see your head coach wave the white towel by punting rather than letting Boz do his job

 

So looking at english premier football scores, 7 teams have scored the same amount of times (2x) and two teams have scored more (3x) than the Steelers scored this weekend (2x). I know it apples to oranges but soccer teams offenses are more exciting than the Steelers.

 

Well, we'll find out in the offseason what the team decides to do. I would bet that there is a new OC and new offense. Maybe a QB coach.

I think Canada's offense is terrible and poorly designed. In the end, we are going to know how the organization feels about the whole situation and the coaching staff.

 

Or look at it this way-Iowa Football, who I root for, their offense is well known to struggle averaged 16.6 points per game this season….Steelers are averaging 15.9.

 

When playing in college, one thing I was very cognizant of was that the game is being filmed and film reviews were the next day. Therefore, I sure as hades wasn't going to give anyone ammo to use against me. So, even if I was out of the play, I was still running as if I were in it. This was to keep playing and not be replaced. Some Steelers players know filming of games is what goes on but know that if they take a playoff here or there, nothing will happen and so it continues. The culture seems to be drastically in need of change and that means the Ownership at this point. It's institutionalized. JMO>

 

No one thought it was solely a Canada issue. If they did, they didn't know wtf they're talking about. Just about every fan knew he was only part of the problem.

That being said, this is still Canada's offense. They're just polishing a turd at this point. It will take until next year to fully assess how blame for this year should be divvy'ed up.

 

Told you so about what? That the Steelers agreed with everyone and knew they had to try something so they fired the guy that designed and implemented the offense?

The organization didn't agree with you. They agreed with everyone else that said Canada wasn't any good. It doesn't mean the organization was wrong or anyone that wanted him fired was wrong. That will be determined over time, not because you said so.

 

We have the WR's but their head not in the game, also we have the RB's..no center, need to replace Moore.
Need a punter. DB's that can cover..# 29 wallace always trailing WR's..We have people on the team that don't give a ****..Tomlin not
doing anything about.TOMLIN is the problem..You think these WR's can pull that with New England ?

 

“I don’t necessarily have the answers as we sit here today"

Popcorn Tomlin, the one who hired Canada, set this offense back and stuck with him.

 

That Canada wasn’t the sole problem. We had wide receivers running wide open every game and big ken ignored them repeatedly. We have a very young offense which is lacking leaders and it shows on the field in both results and effort

 

But only a handful of people believed that Canada was the only problem. You are trying to portray it that way, but the fact is Canada and his offensive system was considered the biggest part of the offensive problems. Almost everyone knows and acknowledges that there are other issues and this wouldn't turn into the greatest show on bad turf instantly.

 

At least you refer to him as big ken now

 

There are numerous people on this board alone that believed everything would be fixed if Canada was fired. Those very same people thought the same thing about Arians, dl, etc etc etc now it’s Tomlin. Fire Tomlin, hire an offensive minded coach and voila we are winning again!

 

Now? Pretty positive I’ve been referring to him as bigk or bigken as soon as I heard it from cam

 

bigk mostly. yes CH said bigken and you used it once early.

i support you. ride with it.

 

Bk deserves the terrible nickname. He owns it until he earns something better

 

it goes beyond the co-o's, they are not good but the problem keeps bringing them in. we fixed the colbert problem and now the grandson and the head coach problem needs fixed. mho

 

It is both a player and system issue. Canada's offense has severely hamstrung this team and the players have done a poor job executing it. Both things are true.

 

No one thought it was all Canada's fault and no one thought firing Canada would fix everything.

The problems are:
1) Art will not make the necessary changes - whether he's too dumb, too scared or doesn't care, we don't know.
2) Tomlin is a clueless hot air generator, and his lack of accountability has ruined the locker room.
3) Canada's offense wouldn't work in most high schools and it's still the Steelers offense, whether he's here or not.

You can't fire the OC and then implement an entirely new offense in the middle of a season.

Beyond all of that disaster, it's impossible to tell much else about the players and other coaches. The failure of the Rooney & Tomlin love affair has permeated everything in Pittsburgh.