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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by S.T.D, Dec 12, 2023.

  1. Animus

    Animus Well-Known Member

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    Cowher 100% pushed Donahue out. He literally made it a get rid of him or I'm out equation. I listened to sports radio everyday during that time span as I was an Sr in HS then. It was a wild time in Stillas history.
     
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  2. Animus

    Animus Well-Known Member

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    As for the OP, if the Patriots can fire a 6x sb champ, then the Stillas can certainly fire an underachieving 1x sb champ.
     
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  3. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Yup. Thought this was common knowledge too but apparently not to everyone.
     
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  4. Da Stellars

    Da Stellars Well-Known Member

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    I’m not a fire Tomlin guy, even though this year has been trying.

    But one thing is true … all things come to an end eventually. He has been here a long time now, it will eventually happen.
     
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  5. Animus

    Animus Well-Known Member

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    I'm somewhat a fire Tomlin guy. But man... NFL culture is something else. Damn near any team from any other sports league and Tomlin would've been fired after the Tim Tebow debacle. European clubs fire coaches as often as the Cleveland Browns, and this is the successful clubs like Man U and Man City.

    And yes, good things do come to an end. I tend to think that both Tomlin and the Steelers mutually go their separate ways after this season. You're not going to attract outside guys to be coordinators with the possibility of a lame duck coach, and I highly doubt that Tomlin gets an extension. I guess the trade rumor that Glazer has some merit due to his connections to Tomlin, but I'm really skeptical to that truly being the case.
     
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  6. SteelerGlenn

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    Some people lack the ability to think objectively and rationally and then there’s the people that just aren’t happy unless they are unhappy and making everyone else miserable.
     
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  7. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    If we could actually get something for this bum wow that would be amazing. I think the only realistic way this ends is AR2 and MT just come to a mutual agreement that it’s time to go separate ways and he goes off on his own accord. He can’t be enjoying what his legacy here is becoming anyone with an ounce of common sense understands it’s beyond time for a change.
     
  8. Karl

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    Two things.

    1. New England is moving on from Bill. Imagine that. I think Bill is done as well. Too much power damns coaches like him. I don't want Pittsburgh to even fathom brining him in.
    2. Washington. With Snyder at the helm, he made several overtures to Rooney to trade for Tomlin. Art hated Snyder. The new owner is not as impetuous as Snyder which is good for Washington. I doubt he considers a trade. When asked he just bristled. I also hope that Ron Rivera is not a candidate here as well. My thought on Rivera is probably better in the front office than coaching.
     
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  9. zcoop

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    Good Pooints BF. Both of you have them but at the end of the day, none of us really knows how the Steelers makes hiearchy decisions. I enjoy many of the debabes on the site but the everything Tomlin gets to be a bit much (you don't do this). I have my issues with Tomlin but most fans will have issues with coaches, that's normal.

    The Peanut Gallery can be annoying, I just tone them out. They seem to wake up with Tomlin, go through the day with Tomlin and go to sleep with Tomlin in their heads. Some of us like to have and enjoy the informative and lively discussions here.
     
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  10. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    So.... the server was over-served?

    I'll see myself out......
     
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  11. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I imagine Snyder didnt have many allies among the owners.

    If the Steelers moved on from Tomlin I think it would be another unknown, that approach has served them well so far but someone brought up an interesting point, it would be Art this time not Dan. Something to keep in mind if a coaching search begins.
     
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  12. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    If a person was to point to one singular aspect of a Super Bowl winning team as the sole reason for its success, that would be completely absurd. Winning a Super Bowl is hard and it takes every part of a team firing on all cylinders.
    It seems equally absurd to assign blame to one single aspect of an unsuccessful team.
    One of the most frustrating, mind-blowing themes of this message board is that some of it's members don't understand that more than one thing can be true about this team. To say that Tomlin should shoulder all the blame is ridiculous but to absolve him of any of it is equally ridiculous.
     
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  13. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    @S.T.D@S.T.D can we move on now.
     
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  14. DJ18Baller

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  15. RobertoC#21

    RobertoC#21 Well-Known Member

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    Yes I do. I'll tell you why....because most of it is BS! If this was in the NFL head coaches handbook, I guarantee 99% of the HC in the league throw it straight into the burn pile with the rest of the garbage. The 1% that may keep it are probably on the Steelers staff right now. Unless I have a signed autographed self titled "handbook / guide " as to how to be an NFL head coach, I will continue to laugh at this type of summations as to what an NFL HC does or doesnt do or may do. In simper terms this looks like it was written as an 8th grade english assignment.
     
  16. METALMAN_68

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    I think it's pretty safe to say that the workload of an NFL head coach varies between all 32 of them. I would imagine that someone with the tenure Mike Tomlin has, would have more power with regards to decisions in the organizations than a first-year head coach.
    The really good ones coach to their own strengths and delegate others to handle areas they lack in.
    The Steelers need to match their coordinators with the identity they want to have on both offense and defense and then build the roster to reflect that.
    We all know that square peg in a round hole sh!t just doesn't work.
     
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  17. SteelReal

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    Did you miss this part below or is your nose so far up in the air you failed to acknowledge the writer conceded coaching varies from person to person?? So basically you just repeated what he said already.


    "It really varies from coach to coach and from team to team. Every team has a fit they like, and every coach has a way he likes to handle things."
     
  18. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Then we should hire Haley back
     
  19. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    The argument that some folks make that Tomlin supporters (including Rooney) are satisfied with mediocrity is a bit ridiculous. Tomlin supporters believe that he is the right guy to lead the team back to glory. I disagree, but I get it. Nobody in Steeler Nation is satisfied. There’s just not consensus on why things are the way they are, who’s at fault, and who is best suited to fix it.
     
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  20. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    Even if that’s the case don’t you think 13 years is enough to fix it? It is not all Tomlins fault as the GM certainly had a big part in roster construction but at the end of the day there has always been one constant and that is MT.
     
  21. SteelReal

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    Why do you remind me of this guy
     
  22. Steelvision

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    He’s the head coach, he’s responsible for making sure the team is ready to play and the coordinators are doing their job. If it’s not happening it’s his fault.
     
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  23. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    Not sure but You remind me of this guy

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  24. SteelReal

    SteelReal Well-Known Member

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    Energy vampire or winner at life??? Hmmmm ...
     
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  25. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    Yes the 9-8 winner at life. At least you confirmed it for me :thumbs_up:
     

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