Mitch Trubisky it's time to step up

If this guy can't win some of these games while Pickett is out, and avoid being a turnover machine like the Ravens game last year, then they need to find another backup for next season.

 

This we can agree on, put up or get cut.

Our 2024 back up is already on the roster though. His name is Kenny Pickett.

 

Nah, I think they give him 2024 as his last chance to prove himself, draft a center and another RT and hire another OC.

 

He shouldn't do much worse than kenny realistically. 6tds to 4ints on the season and barely 2000 yards passing isn't exactly setting the league on fire. I'd say their chances are about as good now as they were with kenny on the field.

 

Kenny is basically just Trubisky 2.0, except Trubisky is better at throwing more touchdowns... and picks. I think he'll do more of both, but I'll happily take the turnovers if he can get us some wins. That Mason isn't really like either of them is why I think he'd be a bigger shakeup and is different enougj that he could potentially be more difficult QB to plan for. But, Tomlin insists that Trubisky is the one, so...here's to hoping he steps up and looks like the big veteran that he's supposed to be.

 

I hope they don't but you are probably right.

C is a must in the next draft, though I am completely unsure of the caliber of players coming out of college at the position. RT is a possibility. Though, I think we really could stand to get the secondary straight in the next draft. Early CB or S would be interesting. Not tons of holes, but the ones we have are glaring.

 

I think we should hand it off to Warren all game, see what happens.

 

I think they are all a bit different, but I hear what you are saying

Kenny is ultra conservative and averse from the middle of the field. He is inaccurate, struggles with reads pre and post snap, and struggles with pocket awareness. However, he doesn't turn the ball over and makes some super awesome NFL caliber throws to the sidelines. He's very confusing to me, as he should be a lot better than he is. Has a lot of quality tools, but the mental side of the game is kicking his @$$. He unfortunately doesn't look like a guy that hacks it in the NFL for too long.

Mitch has very good arm talent and is kind of a "feast or famine" type guy. He is a good athlete, had loads of potential, and really flashed some awesome play... but he never became consistent. He trusts his arm talent and himself enough that he will let a few reckless balls rip and pays the price for it. He's not nearly as bad at processing the NFL defense pre and post snap to Kenny, but never got it to a true NFL starting caliber level. Purely an NFL back up, but in today's NFL he probably has a pretty long career at it.

Mason has one NFL talent and that is his deep ball. Super pretty. Can't find any consistency getting the ball literally anywhere else on the field. His lack of pocket awareness makes him a statue back there and leads to a lot of balls deflected and his arm hit a lot causing incompletions/interceptions. Lacks the ability to decisively get through reads and has no mobility to do anything other than chuck it around. Not 100% sold that getting knocked unconscious against Baltimore didn't ruin his pocket presence and make him the complete statue he is today. That nasty headshot was followed by getting assaulted with a helmet later in the season by Myles Garrett. Weird way to start a career. He is likely out of the NFL in 2024.

 

Well, one thing for sure he send it down the field that’s his MO, which has been sorely needed BUT, he’ll toss the interceptions doing so too.

The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.

 

This is where I see us putting up points. NE's offense is super bad and our defense will be fired up after playing one of the worst games they have in 2 seasons. I'd be willing to bet we get a short field or two handed to us and we capitalize on it. For as bad as our offense has been, NE's has been nearly 4 PPG worse. That is... atrocious.

 

He gets a bad name for the 3 INT game against the Ravens last season. Trubisky has generally taken care of the ball at an average NFL level throughout his career... He just has a small sample size here in Pittsburgh on some bad offenses, therefore it looks a bit worse than his career has panned out in seasons passed. He certainly will turn it over more than Pickett, but I honestly think he will be just fine in relief for the next couple of games.

 

All I agree again he’ll send it down field and Pickens could love that, he’ll take chances. Against a bad Pats team it could be interesting. Against bad Ds he’ll sling it.

 

Not sure why you think the Patriots have a Bad Defense? In the last 3 games they have given up 26 points total; under 10 per game. Of course they are 0-3 in those games, but that has nothing to do with their defense.

I don't think Mitch wins the battle of turnovers against the Patriots Defense. I look for signs of Mason warming up in the 2nd half.


I think Mitch's time to step up was last year week 1 and that never happened.

 

I don’t think the Pats have bad D so I agree with you too. They’re a bad team but their D is the best part of em. I just meant Mitch will go long and he’ll be aggressive at the cost of poor choices resulting n interceptions. When he faces poor secondaries that risk may win out. I would rather see Mason out there too

 

The Pat's have a good defense.
By theory, they should loose this game. They have ~$85mil in cap space, and look to have very good draft position.. they can tool up rather nicely.
They don't want to mess it up with a win.

But that's playing on the 'tank the season' theory, which in my opinion does not exist.

 

It doesn’t matter which QB is back there. If the coaches put them in bad situations then they will end up failing. Put any elite QB on this roster with these coaches and they will struggle.

 

well, yes - i think unless he lights it up for 4 weeks, he is GONE for next year.

that is a GIVEN

 

Maybe in 2025. They are not going to give up on Pickett now.

I do believe they will move on from both Trubisky as well as Rudolph in 2024.

The new Offensive coordinator will want a back up that can be trusted.

We must ride with Mitch and hope he doesn't F it up. But I do fear they will be to ultra conservative due to the mind set of Tomlin playing scared.

I agree with Blast and I have said it as well it's up to the defense to win this game hopefully scoring at least a TD.

The cheats defense is no slouch.

 

I agree with you about Kenny being ultra conservative. I think it was drilled into him to be a "game manager" and play not to lose. I know Canada is gone, but his words were "good enough to win" and I don't think the change in coordinators and play calling could break too much away from everything to install a new offensive scheme.

I don't Mitch is the answer and chances are he will only be unseated by Mason if he plays terrible. If he only throws for 200 yards and a TD it will be considered an upgrade.

I agree Mason is a different style of play than the other two. His deep ball can open up the offense and potentially be a quick strike offense compared to the other two grinding it out with shorter passes barely beyond the LOS, let alone often behind the LOS. You hit it on head with Mason's knockout concussion. I don't care what anyone says, he was showing promise prior to the knockout and I believe rushed back too soon. Heck, I know people who have had concussions and could not sit in front of a computer screen at work for 4-6 weeks, possibly longer. I can't imagine getting a knockout concussion and to comeback two weeks later and be chased around by 300 lb. lineman while trying to decipher my WR downfield through my double vision. He didn't have the multi-interception game until after the concussion and pretty much protected the ball up to that point while taking shots.

From what I've seen between Mason and Mitch, I'll take Mason.

 

I have to agree with the posts about Mitch and Mason being gone next year.
Mitch still thinks he's a starter, he's going to get at least 4 weeks to prove that.
Mason pissed in someone's Wheaties. Man, I've seen some blackballing, but wow...

Regardless of coaching changes, they are going to draft a young QB later rounds.
It would be nice if Trace McSorely could prove out to be better than Mason and Mitch.
You could have him on the roster already... sort of Charlie Batch scenario.
You could draft your later round QB and coach him up to the 2nd spot.
But I doubt that happens.

If I am going with Pickett, I'm going to fix this WR situation.
If the two guys, DJ and Pickens, cannot get their heads out of their collective arses.... they get traded.
I really want to use that first pick on a OT.. and I want a starting Center somehow.

This gives the OC a good start. (Man, I hope they find a really good one)
A young QB that doesn't turn the ball over, with experience....
I suspect Pickens will straighten up... DJ is probably gone. So a replacement.
2 good OT's (provided an legit OT is drafted.)
A Center that can block.
2 very good RB's

WR's - I'd keep an eye on Curtis Samuel (Wash), he's a nice option to run the ball or catch passes.. 27yr, but as a FA he could fit in a modern offense in a pinch.
WR's - I'd like to see them draft solid personality, bigger WR that can provide a role example for Pickens (I think DJ is a cancer to him) a McLaurin type. The guy works hard at his craft and leads by example. This by itself improves QB and the entire offense by leaps and bounds.

 

yes, this has been stated multiple times and in other media as well.

IF Trubs has a successful 3-4 games and IF we score lots of points, the Pickett era is over. 25 games and he has shown little. Little to nothing.

We will see what happens the next few weeks - same cast of characters and coaches, different QB (although I think Trubs sucks!!!)

 

I doubt if Mitch plays any better than Kenny has. He might move the offense a little better, but that will be negated by increased turnovers. Mitch and Kenny are basically the same guy