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Fields is something like 7-29 in his career. No thanks. Darnold and Mayfield have much better records than Fields.

 

This is exactly what I expect to happen but praying Khan surprises us. Otherwise its Stoudt, Malone, Bubby, etc etc being stubborn that the Steeler way will prevail. Keep drafting a QB until you find your guy period don't use joe average hoping we luck into a Super Bowl like the Ravens did with Dilfer. With the offensive minded league, there's no chance that happens anymore.

 

I also feel like we will be stupid and not trade Tomlin if we could and then we don't extend his contract and he walks and either wants to prove the Steelers wrong and goes to another team or he just retires. I would trade him tomorrow if we could for bunch of picks including a first.

 

Teams have anywhere from the end of the season until a determined date just after the draft to make the decision on whether or not to exercise a player's fifth-year option. Making the decision one way or the other would hamper Chicago's ability to trade Fields, and lessen the return. So if they decide to move him they'll be letting the new club decide whether or not they want to pick it up.

 

I’d trade Tomlin for Chicago’s 1st. It’s a fair trade

 

That sounds about right. If a team could get him for a lower round choice then it might be worth it, but think they will ask for at least a 2nd, which may or may not be worth it, but either way it could cost you, if don;t pick up the guarantee and be balls out then you pay, if he stinks and you picked it up, then you pay anyway.

 

You can’t keep drafting a QB year after year though thats what teams like the Browns did for years and the rest of the team around the QB was horrible. I think you build up the team and get a solid vet and then make your move in the draft to move up for the right guy you are confident in.

 

Worked with Ben...not so much with Kenny to date. Agree overall...but it would be nice to hit rock bottom to have a chance at a top tier talent. If memory serves, Steelers were 6-10 the year before they got Ben? This non-losing record stuff is doing the team no favors.

 

Yes either way but I just hope we don't keep recycling other peoples failed projects and wish for the miracle resurgence. You gotta have a blue chip guy in todays game. A fine line between patience and blinders on.

 

Ben was a premier talent coming out much higher pedigree than Pickett. That draft class for QB’s was one of the more highly touted QB classes. Not to mention that team around Ben was loaded at every level on all sides. Not sure how we had a bad record the year before that but their is a reason Faneneca was so mad when Tommy Maddox went down. We had high expectations as a team that year and losing our starting QB was not something the vets on the team were happy about at the time. I would love for the same situation to happen where we built this team up and had an above average veteran QB until we drafted the Stud Rookie. Keep in mind when you have an elite team at all levels it attracts veteran QB’s who have accomplished everything but the elusive Super Bowl.

 

Yes, Mariota!

 

I was just agreeing with your point of not picking QBs every year and building an actual team. That worked with Ben. 100% agree that Ben had a better pedigree so it was helpful the Steelers sucked for whatever reason the year before.

Steelers have tried to take the same approach in my opinion, but have lacked the opportunity for such pedigree given their middle of the pack results year in and out.

 

The outside expectation was very low before the 2004 season....The steelers were 26th in ESPN power rankings before the 2004 season...The magical 2004 season was so unexpected

 

A true franchise QB can overcome like crazy the weaknesses that a team have....Same thing for a coaching staff....Just look at the Houston Texans right now

If the Steelers have an opportunity to draft a true franchise QB, they need to not miss their chance but it's hard to do when you're stuck in the middle and the Steelers seem to be fine with that right now

But if you wait for your roster to be perfect, you're in trouble....

 

Oh sorry. I agree it is hard especially to draft OT and CB’s when your drafting late not to mention QB’s. I do think they have alot of wasted spending on non productive veterans on this team such as (Peterson, Okorafor, Ogunjobi, Trubiscky and Robinson) where if we cut those guys and picked up maybe a higher pedigree CB and QB in free agency and then drafted for the other positions we would be better off moving forward. Those Veterans I mentioned aren’t foundational building blocks that you grow with. I am really down on Ogunjobi for the amount of money we spend on him. Actually all of those guys are on the higher end in cap space and for what they contribute I would rather see us take that money and go get the CB from Chicago and maybe a higher end DT because Cam is dwindling down and the only Blue Chipper we have on the D Line is the Rookie. Then you go into the draft and get an OT, a Center and a Wide Receiver or MLB. Would love to get a better Veteran than Mitch. I don’t what Minshew costs but to me he would be the perfect veteran to bring in to compete with KP.

 

Thats crazy. That team was loaded with talent.

 

Before the 2004 season, our running game was 31st the season before, the QB position was a huge question mark and Polamalu and Ike Taylor were not yet proven players...Of course everything changed during the season!

 

I like this trade.

 

Totally agree. Savran (RIP) was the last of the true sports talk show hosts. These guys today are nothing more than shills for the sports betting industry and spend most of their time laughing at each others jokes or manufacturing controversy to generate calls which they don't even take because they can't shut up long enough.

 

I was told by a Bears fan that some of Fields issues started when his first QB coach and OC wanted him to change his foot work when setting up to pass. This guy told me the Bears organization has no idea how to find a modern HC that can coach, teach and help find a competent staff. He seemed to think Fields might be salvageable. The real question is whether the Steelers are the right spot for him. If they could get him cheap, why not bring him in to challenge Pickett?

 

Yeah, we've seen how that's worked out with Trubisky. The last thing in the world we need is another Bears QB reject

 

I get that. But I think even with the poor position he is in currently, Fields is better than anyone in Pittsburgh's QB room.

It's damn difficult to find the "next one" AND have the right weapons and coaching in place. Fields might just be a decent bridge QB. There are roughly 20 other teams in the same boat as the Steelers. We know all too well how long it took them to get a real stud after Bradshaw retired.

 

Sometimes I wonder how much of our lack of offensive production is due to Tomlin wanting to play it safe so our defence can keep us in the games. Either way, I'm not high on either Mitch or Pickett. I think Fields could be an upgrade over either, but only if the coaching staff lets him play like he can. If they try to limit turnovers, it limits what he can do. Even if Fields is unleashed, I don't think he's very good. He's so explosive, but so inconsistent. I don't watch Bears games often, so how much of that is the team around him, coaching, etc. I don't know.

Fields is not the answer to our problems, but I do think he would be an upgrade over Pickett. But then you're giving up on Pickett which I don't think the team will do yet, and what will the cost be to get Fields? I just don't care for the idea much.

As low as I am on Pickett, unless there's a QB in the draft who is much, much better, I'm all for pairing him with a good OC next year, take the leash off and see what he can do.