Random guy on Jones vs TJ

Stopped watching this guys breakdown right off the bat.

First he details how Jones was only brought in specifically on passing downs against TJ. So you bring a fresh body in to go against one guy he's prepared for all week vs. TJ having to figure out how to attack him with no tape and no heads up.

Then he says there's a chip but it's not really a chip and having a chip can mess up your timing as an OT.

Then he talks about his punch and coming down on top of TJ when you can clearly see he's holding and rips him down with the shoulder hold while he's trying to dip.

I mean the kids going to be good I think, but let's not over sell him when he's specifically coming in to block TJ and change it up. (with help on a 4 man rush and holding)

 

Dawands size is the issue here for any pass rusher; T.J. Watt or otherwise. Dawand is simply too big of a human being to be overpowered overall. His pure raw strength alone is unreal.


That all said, Dawands size is also his biggest weakness; twitchy pass rushers can and will get around him more often than not. T.J. is both a power based rusher and a speed based one but prefers to use leverage rushes; namely his ghost dip.


Regardless and, after finally watching the game, I can say that Dawand did a lot better this go around than his first start against T.J. Still some ways to go but dude is getting better.

 

They should be moving TJ around like Dallas does Micah Parsons. I've seen Detroit do it with Aidan Hutchinson also. I think I've seen a lil with TJ, but not a lot.

 

Oh I know that, but let's not forget that when you're whole preparation is to get in there on pass downs only against him, it gives you a built in advantage. You're not going against him every down and getting tired or showing him tells. You'd better do better against him in that situation

 

Keep in mind TJ actually has a viable bookend..... no need to move him all over the place

 

Meh.
They have both been quiet lately.
Our entire defense has been quiet.
I want splash plays dammit

 

You keep him rushing the passer and containing the edge! Against the clowns loss they had him in coverage on several occasions. This is just dumb!

Preach!

Are they playing in a Pool? Another stupid Tomlin saying.

 

We need TJ to stay the HELL AWAY from pools well at least during cleaning

 

If you mean bookend as in Highsmith that has nothing to do with the point of my post. It had to do with creating mismatches on other areas of the line where he can take advantage of his quickness and strength from time to time on likely a weaker opponent. I'm not talking every play, but enough to blow up their play protections. Sometimes it's just as simple as doing a twist or a stunt. He might start outside but he rolls to the inside on snap

 

Pipe down Forrest. There's nothing wrong with dropping TJ back into coverage from time to time or switching him to another area on the line to throw off their pass protections from time to time. Did you forget he just had a interception not too long from being dropped back into coverage. Was it dumb to drop him back then?


Technically im just talking about moving him around 2- 3 plays on the line, not even so much drop him back into coverage although i dont mind when they do that especially if TJ is having difficulty getting to the QB or give him a play off. Hes not going to get close to the QB every play, sometimes not close at all if the tackle and help provided is really that good. If their constantly chipping TJ or giving help to his side switch him up and put him against the guard occassionally and have someone swing wide on the tackle so the tackle can't provide any help against TJ and create more room for him to work against a weaker position (guard) as an example.

 

Initially, TJ himself was the one against moving around. He felt most comfortable rushing from the left side. He has said as much in interviews. This has been talked about quite a bit around here.
Recently they have begun moving him around and putting him in coverage but make no mistake, TJ isn't doing anything he's not comfortable doing and they're going to use him where he does the most damage.

 

It's CK 13

Maybe one or 2 times but 7 or so? He is our MAIN PASS RUSHER!

 

No one said anything about seven. Must be the other voice in your head.

 

Teams spend their entire week game-planning ways to not let our pass rushers ruin their game. Last week they basically never allowed their QB to have the ball for more than 2-3 steps. Can't get sacks with only that brief amount of time to rush. When teams do that, they need to press the WR's at the line and force the QB to hold the ball for a bit longer to allow the rush to get home.

 

To be Honest he was in coverage way too much early in this game.

 

Problem is they play that zone behind it and leave guys wide open.

 

yeah, unfortunate...

 

Are You Guys really complaining because We gave up 13 points....with a bunch of backup, and guys off the streets all the way up the middle on this D???

 

No, not at all. I was sad that we didn't press their receivers tighter when they were clearly doing 3 step drops for DTR because they didn't want him to get sacked all game. We ended up allowing them to walk down the field the last drive on passes that were 1 step drops and out because we didn't adjust.

 

I will tell You why. Because they were more worried about the Qbs legs than his arm. They didn't want to press, and make it easier to be blocked for a long run by the Qb.....it didn't turn out that way, but that happen sometimes....you go with what You think, and it doesn't always work. That's why there are so few undefeated seasons....no matter what You do , or how well You do it....sometimes it doesn't work out

 

This is certainly a reasonable explanation. Not sure if that is exactly what they were thinking or not, but it at least makes enough sense for it to be realistic. The defense has consistently been the driving force behind us winning games the past 18ish games. Hard to be upset with them, but it definitely sucked watching a pretty bad QB march it 40 yards into FG range to beat us. Too bad our offense couldn't throw for 100 yards to help them out.

 

they dropped him 5 times that first drive

 

Some don't watch just like to talk out of the side of there neck and insult. It happens.

 

Except where did I mention anything in my comment about dropping him into coverage?? This dummy literally brought up dropping TJ into the coverage and then has the audacity to suggest that I did it! That wasn't even the point of the original post so why go off topic??

 

I wasn't talking about dropping him into coverage. I was talking about moving him around on the line. Yall insist on talking to me about something I didn't even bring up. I was talking about TJ moving around on the front line and somehow that got interpreted as dropping TJ into coverage even though it had nothing to do with the original post.