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My thoughts on regular season wk 10

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by blackandgoldpatrol, Nov 12, 2023.

  1. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I would bet money....unless badly injured....He gets at least another year. If they don't see significant improvement next year....then You need to look for another Qb. I'm not ecstatic with what I'm seeing, but I know some take longer than others, and He will still be cheap.
     
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  2. R2sojr

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    I mean I get it if you are seeing improvements. He just isn’t improving He still looks like he’s in his first year. Sam Howell is way ahead of him when watching them play side by side. Maybe the offense is so simple cause that’s all Pickett can do. 1 read throws on EVERY pass play? That can’t be on all the coaching. I think they are taking the hit and shielding Pickett. Pickens IG posts are telling that it isn’t coaching.
     
  3. Charlie wilson

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    You don't ever see Kenny smiling are laughing? It like he is not enjoying out there. He seemed to smile a lot more last year.
     
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  4. S.T.D

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    I'm not saying You are wrong. I'm just saying what I think they will do. :thumbs_up:
     
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  5. R2sojr

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    Typical Steeler style. Lol. By that time TJ and Minkah will be on their last leg. Lol Just don’t understand why Mason didn’t get that treatment. Smart and a canon for an arm. I truly think Mason is better than Pickett.
     
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  6. METALMAN_68

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    Quit running on first down? The offense has looked completely different to start the last two games and that is because of their commitment to the run and it having success. We've already seen what it looks like when they try having Pickett throw all over the yard. Hasn't worked well to this point. The run game should be, and should have always been the number one focus for an offense with a young, struggling quarterback.
     
  7. S.T.D

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    Don't even get Me started about Mason. LoL. At the very least....He should be number 2. We drafted KFP in the 1st.... so I understand how they are doing it. We just must hope that KFP gets better....because We can complain all We want, and it won't change a thing.
     
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  8. Steelhammer92

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    Last year he was playing with house money as the hometown rookie qb everyone was clamoring for. Mistakes were chalked up as rookie mistakes, and there'd be inevitable improvement. He had moxy and played like it. He wasn't exactly stellar last year, but he played with confidence and seemed to be steadily improving as the season went on.

    Year 2... expectations rise, pressure builds, but he's not meeting those expectations. Hard to play with a smile on your face when the pressure walls are caving in and the game seems too fast.
     
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  9. Formerscribe

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    Yet it took him over five seasons to figure things out in the NFL.
     
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  10. Formerscribe

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    Why on Earth would you trust what you are getting from Pickens' IG posts?
     
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  11. Formerscribe

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    Rudolph does not have a cannon for an arm. Pickett has a stronger arm than Rudolph. Also, what makes you think Rudolph is a smart quarterback? I haven't seen that from him, either. He throws a nice deep ball, which isn't really about arm strength as it is touch and timing. They felt he had less upside and they don't like what they have seen from him in practices and games. That is why they were desperate to keep him out of the starting lineup last season and that's why they let h im test the free-agent market.
     
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  12. Formerscribe

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    That is part of the problem. If you do all of your passing in passing situations, you make it a lot tougher on your quarterback. That said, the way they ran the ball today and last week, I expect to see them at least try to rely on Warren and Harris again next week.
     
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  13. METALMAN_68

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    Oh, they definitely need to try and switch it up here and there and pass on obvious running downs and vice versa. But that's the kind of creativity most of us have pointed out that's lacking.

    I tried to go back and look at stats like running on first down in the first couple of games and couldn't find it. I am pretty sure though, that in the first several games they came out throwing right off the jump. One game I rewatched and wrote down 5 plays, I believe, where they ran on first down. The rest were throws. It's not as if they haven't tried both approaches but you can clearly see which one seems to be working better. They just can't go to that well too often.
     
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  14. The Sodfather

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    I wonder if he feels as if he could be doing more but is being restricted by his coaches and the game plan. If that's the case, he could help his cause if he'd hit the plays when they are there. If he is being restricted, that and the fear of being concussed again might be causing him to play tight.
     
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  15. JackAttack 5958

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  16. Steelvision

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    he needs a decent OC and better pass protection - no, he hasn’t had good pass protection all season
     
  17. TWISTER

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    I don’t know why, but I get the feeling that he isn’t happy with the play calling, he honesty plays like he has handcuffs on the whole game until it gets down to the nitty griddy, it’s then that you see more fire inside of him.


    All in all he isn’t the greatest qb for sure, but I think he has potential if they take the handcuffs off and let’s him play.

    seriously go back 2-3 years and we have always had successful drives when it came down to the hurry up offense, when the qb’s we’re in control.
     
  18. JackAttack 5958

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    With regard to his maturity, he’s already 26 years old so I’m not sure there will be a lot more maturing. I used to poo poo the idea of Pickett having a high floor and a low ceiling, but that analysis is starting to look like it may be spot on.
     
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  19. Formerscribe

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    Or he is a guy who takes a while to get it when he moves up to a new level, as he did at Pitt.
     
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  20. JackAttack 5958

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    I like your optimism…and I hope you are correct!
     
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  21. Formerscribe

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    I don't know how else to look at it. He is their best option right now. He is probably going to be their quarterback next season, too.
     
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  22. JackAttack 5958

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    I’m sure he’s got this season and next. I’d just like to see something, anything that gives us a reason to believe that he can be the guy. At this point, he really seems to be regressing and that’s very concerning. He’s had some good moments, but he looks very pedestrian most of the time.
     
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  23. nofieldfive

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    DJ makes that catch and if no foul on Pickens catch - Pickett has about 200 yards, total offense is 400 plus and we have more points on the board - a lot of these posts would be different. And I realize it is IF but Pickett made 2 big throws on those plays.

    Don't get why on the third and 3-4 yards we aren't using Heyward or Washington to pick those up. Have we yet tried throwing a jump ball to Washington and let him go get it?

    In the past couple games we have very randomly blitzed with secondary. Might as well send someone on these third and forevers we kept giving up. At least make the qb hurry on throw.....can't be any worse than current results.

    Okorafor's days may be numbered but he took one for the team and his outburst shook things up.

    On one first down - Jones pushed the pile forward and got the first downe - nice to see that.
     
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  24. Steelersfan43

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    It wouldn't be a big surprise if the Steelers collapse for the rest of the year since they're not a good team....9-8 is the likely scenario but at least the streak will continue!
     
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  25. Karl

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    Nice.
    A bit odd but decent grammar, a little lacking in substance. 90%, that's remarkable. Justin Fields comes to mind, as well as many other fails. QB is a tough spot to fill.
    But ok.

    So, Drake Mayer is looking pretty good. Maybe the 2nd best QB but within reach.
    It doesn't look like Pittsburgh is going to be in the top 15 picks, so it's going to cost to move up.
    Pittsburgh blows up the draft to get to 2 or 3 and drafts Mayer and Matt Canada remains.
    That's possibly the worst scenario that could happen.

    I happen to know some Defensive Coordinators - both active and inactive.
    To paraphrase, they think Pittsburgh's Offense is a mess.
    You hear that echoed on pre-game shows.
    Do you not get that?

    "If" the Steelers feel like Kenny is not 'the guy'
    They are going to base that off Matt Canada's idea of an offense.
    This will cost them, do they maneuver for Drake Mayer? Maybe try to trade Kenny to gain resources?
    *This isn't Madden 2024, you actually have to find a trade partner and one willing to pay your price.

    My thought is that Matt Canada's 'contract will not be renewed.' per se.
    My hope is that they go outside and find an OC that knows what he is doing.
    We are wasting time in the current system.
    I am all about the W's and I prefer a more qualified analysis of what we have or don't have.

    A little background: I came from Washington. Washington is the 2nd greatest QB killer in the NFL behind the NY Jets. It feels like Washington has had 50 QB's since 92.
    I never want to see that cycle of mediocrity happen here. Washington also set the gold standard for poor ownership. I quit in 2015. I sort of chuckle when I see people here complain about ownership - but I have experience with a massive fail so it's a bit unfair.

    In conclusion, they can move on from Kenny if they want, but they better have a good plan. For now, I root for Kenny to be the guy. (We have nothing else)
    I'm not accustomed to root for failure to happen.
     
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