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After 20 nfl games Pickett

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by strummerfan, Oct 30, 2023.

  1. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    Is not the future. You can point to his 4th quarter comebacks and try to argue otherwise, but you really shouldn’t. Less than 190 ypg, more interceptions than touchdowns, probably the worst yards per attempt in the league. Not once have we seen him play a complete game and it’s not even close. This year alone he’s had 20 first quarter possessions and gone 3 and out on 14 of them.
     
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  2. SteelReal

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    It's one step forward two steps back for this entire offense, and we still don't know if the bigger issue is Kenny or Canada. The bad part is we may have to waste one more year finding out if it's Kenny. Will Levis 4 TDs in first official start is going to have Kenny sympathizers once again trying to overshadow what happened with another rookie QB showing him up by putting it all on the OC. When is it ever going to be about Kenny? He still overthrew that ball to Diontae first play, I don't care how much singular blame we all try and place on Diontae and if he leads Pickens on that one pass that fell short where the corner was able to defend between Pickens and the ball that's another sure TD.

    I really do hope it clicks sometime soon and he succeeds, but it's really because we have no choice at this point. It's literally Kenny or bust.
     
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  3. mikeyg

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    no, he is not.

    he missed a number of key plays early yesterday - he makes his own holes to dig out of.
     
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  4. mikeyg

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    agreed.

    it's like the post Bradshaw era. the dark years....

    felt it could be this way, we had a fun ride with Ben and Co....
     
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  5. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    people love to point at Canada, but when your qb is consistently making the wrong decision, missing wide open receivers, or completely overlooking wide open receivers I think it’s safe to say it’s not the play or the scheme
     
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  6. Formerscribe

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    The first play was on Johnson's hands. He has to catch that. The pass I have a problem with was on third down before the field goal. Pickett has been fantastic in driving the team 93 yards, then saw Johnson too late. That should have been an easy touchdown to take the lead.

    There is plenty that is Pickett's fault, but it is also fair to point out that he is in a terrible situation. The line sucks and Canada's play designs and early-game scripts are horrid. That doesn't excuse Pickett's poor play, but I'm not sure it is time to say for certain that we know what he is yet, either.
     
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  7. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    When the scheme is terrible, the running game sputters, and the offensive line can't give him time to throw, that is part of the problem, too. It isn't one thing. It is a toxic combination of a terrible offensive coordinator, poor play by the offensive line, and a young quarterback struggling.
     
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  8. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    And the wide open pickens that Pickett under threw allowing the cb to recover and knock the ball away?
     
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  9. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    He’s got no less time to throw than every other qb in the league
     
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  10. SteelinOhio

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    Unfortunately, it appears to be both. I wasn't very excited about Pickett in the draft, but I hoped I would be wrong, and there have been flashes where he gave some hope. But just b/c Kenny isn't doing great, it doesn't take blame away from Canada. There's plenty of blame to go around to both.
     
  11. Formerscribe

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    Yup. He needs to make a better throw there, but I'm more concerned by him not recognizing the opportunity with Johnson.
     
  12. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    That simply isn't true.
     
  13. steel_ben7

    steel_ben7 Well-Known Member

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    I agree that Pickett is probably not the answer long term. I have seen enough as well to think that he just isn’t the guy even though he has had a bunch of 4th quarter comebacks. It’s still just amazing to me that this offense can look so bad every single week and just does not get any better and no changes are made and Tomlin continues to do nothing about it and gets pissed at the media when they ask about it and wonders why. I just wish somebody would tell Tomlin at his press conference “We are asking about it Mike because your offense absolutely sucks and can’t score every game” that’s why.
     
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  14. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    Actually it is. He’s right there in the middle of the pack
     
  15. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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    correct.
     
  16. mikeyg

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    I ask every week - "what do they do all week?"

    Kenny and WR's no where near on the same page
    OLINE in mass confusion
    defenses each and every week saying they know what we are doing before we snap the ball

    it is MASS SUCK
     
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  17. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    a 4th quarter comeback is great! It’s fun as all hell to watch and gives you the warm and fuzzies. However, it doesn’t negate 27 quarters of below average play.
     
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  18. SteelerGlenn

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    This
     
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  19. TRUCK

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    It's not safe to say. This offense has been pathetically inept under Canada. Always ranked near the bottom and setting records for futility. It didn't matter if Ben was QB or Trubisky or Kenny. Kenny may not be the answer. However, the total predictability of the offense prevents it from ever developing a rhythm. it won't matter who we put under center with Canada as OC.
     
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  20. Formerscribe

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    Middle of the pack would mean that he is pressured more than roughly half the quarterbacks in the league. I don't think the pressure numbers match your claim, but even if they did, your initial statement would have been incorrect.
     
  21. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    We are talking about a hundredth or hundredths of a second difference.
     
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  22. OB1

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    ‘yes! I’ve been saying that for years: Steelers don’t look like they practice anything useful between games.

    oh, let’s not forgot, the fat punter, who’s sole purpose for drawing breadth is to punt 100+ times Monday to Friday, can’t string good punts consistently. Wtf??
     
  23. Formerscribe

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    Given how quickly things happen in the NFL, that difference matters.

    Their inability to block for the run is a problem, too. Pickett clearly doesn't trust his line and that is part of his problem.
     
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  24. Wolfepack88

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    "...we still don't know if the bigger issue is Kenny or Canada." This is why not firing Canada at the bye is going to cost the Steelers valuable time. If we had fired Canada and used the QB coach as an interim and put a few wrinkles into the playbook and perhaps called a better game we would have been able to determine if KP is the guy. Now with the injury and being into the season even further they will defer and perhaps want to see KP with a new coordinator. Then again with the offensive line just looking atrocious compared to other teams I watched yesterday we probably can't even really evaluate KP. I'm still at red alert 9 with KP and haven't budged yet until we see a complete game and he's nowhere close to a complete game.
     
  25. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    It's no coincidence that Pickett played much better last season when the run game improved considerably.

    I don't know if Pickett is the answer or not. He's what we've got now though, and I'd rather we used our high draft picks on the o-line in the near future.
     
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