AFCN Qbs...As of 10/12/23

It is literally a measure of efficiency. No different from yards per carry.

 

Completely different from yards per carry. Yards per carry is an actual stat. Yards per attempt means nothing.

 

LMFAO
https://www.nfl.com/stats/player-stats/
^ Yards per attempt is an official statistic recorded by the National Football League.
Confidently wrong, that is the best way to describe your post. I already explained this to you but you are apparently not humble enough to learn.

"Yards per carry is an actual stat. Yards per attempt means nothing." How do you people come up with this stuff?

 

Yards per attempt is a worthless stat. Official or not. I'm not trying to teach, just stating what is factual.

 

"Yards per attempt is a worthless stat." Is an opinion, not a fact.
You do not know what is and is not an official stat. You do not know the difference between a fact and an opinion. You actually said yards per carry and yards per attempt were completely different when they are extremely similar. What you state carries very little weight because it is founded on very little knowledge, let alone wisdom.

As an aside: Crazy how the best QBs in the league are also usually at the top in YPA, must be a coincidence. Oh no it actually indicates they are very efficient, like I said.

 

I guess that makes Taysom Hill the best QB in the league? Attacking me does not help your case that YPA is anything other than a fantasy stat. If Kenny Pickett throws 4 passes and 3 are for 20 yards and 1 is for 5 yards, that is 4 passes for 65 yards, or 16 yards per attempt. Does that even begin to explain him as a QB? Yards per attempt has zero context to the play or the play maker. This stat means nothing.

 

YPA is one of the most important stats for a starter... I don't understand your point about Hill since he is a gadget player...But when you have 400-600 pass attempts in a season, your YPA must be at least at 7.0 minimum

Just look at Ben, he was always at least 7.0 or better in his first 15 years, 7.5 for the most part and 8.0 or better at time but his decline which started in 2020, he was in the low 6.0, which is very hard to have above average passing game when this is the case YPA doesn't tell the whole story but it's still one of the important and underrated stats

 

I agree with the TDs, and Ints, but I like @Born2Steel don't believe in yards per attempt with Qbs. If You go look at the History....let's just say the last two years.....a few Great Qbs are in the top 10 in this, but a lot of terrible Qbs are also. So I don't think it's a good measuring stick. JMO

 

Your passing offense is very likely to be awful if your YPA is 6.5 or below...Like I said,it don't tell the whole story but no stats tell the whole story

 

Strawman argument. I never said the best YPA = the best QB.
Question: How passes per game does Taysom Hill attempt?
Answer: Too few to qualify for yearly passing stats. The NFL requires you attempt 14 passes per game for per game stats and 244 for a season for most passing statistics on a yearly basis. Another basic thing that I would not be surprised you did not know until now.
How about this: Instead of Taysom Hill let us look at the best QBs (which is what I said) in the league over the past few years and where they ranked in YPA for the season, shall we?
2022: Patrick Mahomes - 2nd MVP
2021: Aaron Rodgers - 7th MVP
2020: Aaron Rodgers - 3rd MVP
2019: Lamar Jackson -13th, but with over 1,200 rushing yards, it was still nearly 8 YPA for him. MVP
2018: Patrick Mahomes - 2nd MVP
That is an Average of 6.4th place with Lamar as an outlier and his YPA was actually higher than Rodgers' in 2021. Seems like a pretty strong correlation.

I am not attacking you, I am informing you. All I can tell you is the truth, it is up to you how you feel about it. Again, your insistence that YPA is some irrelevant made up stat will not change the fact that the opposite is true, at least on this plane of reality. The NFL makes my case for me that it is not a fantasy stat, you are the one saying the NFL is wrong. Let that sink in.

Yup, I knew you did not know about minimum attempts. 4 passes is too small a sample size to glean any meaningful insight from. This was figured out years ago by official NFL statisticians so do not worry about people making declarations based on 4 passes, it does not happen.
Nobody said YPA tells the whole story. I said it is a good way to gauge efficiency, which it is. It is what your offense/QB can expect to get every time they throw the ball, no different from yards per carry which can be subject to the same level of variance in individual rushing attempts. You sticking your head in the sand despite all the evidence being thrown in your face will not change that.

It is over, dude. Quit while you are behind, you were always wrong about this.

 

Obviously.

 

Bradshaw argued that YPA was an important stat. In the article I read years ago, he placed its importance over completion percentage. One guy completes 3 passes for 6 yards, is punting the ball. The other misses first two then completes a 12 yard pass is moving the chains. Extrapolate that out over a season. It may not be the most important stat, I don’t know that any one stat is. But it’s worthwhile.

 

Good explanation

 

But didn’t you read the explanation from our forum expert on the subject? That’s not enough throws to qualify.

For me, and the way I look at stats. YPA is a team stat not a QB stat. There are so many variables involving every part of the offense just to get the pass off, that it tells us nothing about individual play. You look at a team’s offensive stats and you can get the yards per play(team stat), yards per rush attempt(team stat), and yards per pass attempt(team stat). You simply cannot judge a QB effectively by YPA.

So far this season KP’s YPA is 6.5. We know he can hit GP and CA3 for deep strike TDs.

 

I don't think they have the cap space to take any of those contracts. If they could work that part of it out, of course, you take Burrow in a heartbeat.

 

seems to me scoring is down across the league. KC, Philly, SF, cinci, baltimore, buffalo and so on. once in a while there is a big scoring game, but every week this year it seems the games are close and lower scoring. as i had said in another thread, defenses usually catch up with offensive trends. the refs have been dictating games, the refs have been blowing calls or inconsistent calls. many offenses are struggling this year in scoring, so are we really in a different boat than many others?

 

Yes...Only the Giants and the patriots have a worst offense that the steelers in PPG

 

points are down league wide. the giants got screwed a couple of times last night by the refs. even the ref in the booth said those were not penalties and shouldn't have been called. neither of those teams are 3-2 and have a 2-0 record in their division either. neither of those teams have a second year qb either.

 

Good for you if you are happy with the 30th offense because points are down league wide

 

nobody said i was happy but it's not just us. again we have a qb that hasn't even been through a full season yet as a starter. should we be leading the league in scoring with him? that didn't happen with ben either.

 

I never asked to be number 1 or even top 10 in scoring but being average would be a start for this offense....But this is not even close,they are bottom 3

 

for now. 12 games left. 2 of those games were against the top 2 defenses in the league as well. we were 1-1 in those.

 

Lamar could take a huge lead after today.....

 

STD is not going to be happy

Lamar looks like he’s starting to get the passing part with this new OC. Could be scary. If his WRs don’t drop those easy passes vs us they are 6-1.

We definitely don’t have the worst QB in the division though. Watson is cooked.