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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Disco1981, Sep 12, 2023.

  1. troybellringer55

    troybellringer55 Well-Known Member

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    Establish the Run game!!! But in doing so you can't down so early in these games.

    Steelers ran it 10 times last Sunday unacceptable....
     
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  2. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    It is easier to make plays when things break down if you don't have to do it as often. I'm sorry you don't understand that.

    Of course, he is better right now. That doesn't mean he is better long term, and a big part of why he is more productive is being in a far better situation.
     
  3. mikeyg

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    so, most of us know this and I will repeat it until all students in class GET IT:

    YOU CANNOT run the ball if you don't get first downs. It is not that complicated. there is no rhythm to be established - no NOTHING. SF's strength is RUN D. Cana-duh thought we'd attack first thru the air - except that he did dink and dunk. that is not passing. Go DOWN FIELD. Except that we were just outclassed, outcoached and outplayed. the clown jet sweep - every player on SF's D saw that play coming. Canaduh SUCKS

    no first downs and you CANNOT establish the run. and - now get ready for this genius piece of thought - when it is 20-0 with 3 minutes left in the half, you don't run the ball.

    plain and simple.

    class dismissed.
     
  4. mikeyg

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    and the BIG ONE - Better Coaching (that falls into system, I assume you mean)
     
  5. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Here's the problem. Nobody was open down the field early on. Pickett was looking. The first attempt down the field was the interception. Part of that was Johnson stumbling, but the corner was in good position. There wasn't a good opportunity down the field until the throw that was behind Johnson. That was the third or fourth possession, when the Steelers were already down 17 points.

    They had plays designed to attack down the field. They just weren't getting anybody open. Is that Canada's fault? Probably, least in part, because his play designs aren't creating openings.

    To answer your question in the other post, yes, coaching is a big difference. Shanahan creates opportunities for his quarterback and receivers. Canada does not.
     
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  6. Rollers

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    So the last pick in the draft is a QB. Remember what happened to the QB we draft in the 7th round last year? If you can't see he is performing way better than expectations then I don't know what else to say. Kenny has taken a huge step backwards and that's concerning. He looked confused and unready out there. Maybe the situation is our coaching staff? It will be interesting to see how the two compare at the end of the year
     
  7. SuperSteelers

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    49ers showed the blue print on how to shut down the Steelers offense. Gonna be a long season for tiny hands Pickett.
     
  8. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Please point out the post in which I stated or implied that Purdy is not performing above expectations. You can't because I never did.
     
  9. Vox Ferrum

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    I do not give Canada a pass..period. Yes KP's play was crap, but it begin with the Coordinator who schemes a a game plan, calls the plays. The plan includes various run and pass pakages, not only was KP ineffective, the line stunk, the pass routes stunk, the run blocking stunk, the entire system stunk.

    Yes players need to produce, but if the entire system from the top is rancid, it really is hard to see and evaluate players properly. This is not a poor KP give him time post, it is we were totally unprepared, and that preparation starts from the top. Yes they got behind, but they were not THAT far behind that you panic. From the onset nothing worked, the players may indeed be outmatched and out classed, or perhaps (as we have known), we have an OC that is out matched and has been for 3 years.

    Enough of the excuses, in every phase of the game we sucked, and we sucked badly.
     
  10. Vox Ferrum

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    is this the blue print where in the past opposing teams D's were calling the play as out O lined up? Bottom line you cannot play a Saturday offense on a Sunday D.
     
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  11. Blast Furnace

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    Fortunately other teams can’t use 49ers players to make that blueprint effective.

    49ers are by far the toughest defense they will face. Most of the other teams they will face will be like the teams they beat down the stretch last year.
     
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  12. Rollers

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    I use the word if indicating that if that were your thought. Look I'm tired of people here in the Burgh having every excuse out there for the success Purdy has had. It's the system. It's the coaches. It's the other players around him. and on and on. The kid is killing it on the biggest stage for football players there is and for one I'm damn happy he is succeeding. As to the system and the coaches why can't we have that system and good coaches?
     
  13. Formerscribe

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    I'm not dismissing everything about Purdy. He is good. I was very impressed Sunday. That said, he does have some huge advantages, including a coach who seems to make just about any quarterback look decent. Oddly enough, the only one he couldn't do it for was the guy who cost them three first-round picks.

    How many offensive coaches are on that level? Andy Reid is one. Who else is that good?
     
  14. RichD

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    I don`t get the feeling DJ will rush back into action. Not much good happens when the ball goes his way anyhow. Fumble, int, runs backwards, penalty and now a hammy. Yikes
     
  15. Steelrules

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    Plays that call for the WRs to run as fast as they can to get separation isn’t that hard to defend. Canada just lacks imagination and seems overmatched. Then again, you can also say that for Austin
     
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  16. SuperSteelers

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    Doesn't matter how tough the rest of the defenses they face are when the Steelers offense is predictable. That is why teams they should easily beat end up being nail biters.
     
  17. Blast Furnace

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    Well if they win nail biters it still counts as a win so yeah, it does matter that they won’t be facing teams as good as the 49ers.
     
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  18. S.T.D

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    Again....there was many plays out there to be had. There was one play as example that comes to mind on the drive that we finally scored on. Not only was there one target open , but 3 , and KFP missed his target that He finally saw. Anyone that watched the game could see this. I'm not counting the Kid out. I have always believed a player need 30- 40 game to really know what You have, and whether they can get better, or as good as You need. I freaking never wanted Canada, and everyone on the team should be blamed for that loss, but KFP should take the biggest part of that last game.
     
  19. Lizard72

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    I think what is missing is that the one guy that Kenny looked to be in sync with was Robinson.


    You're probably going to see him in the WR1 role a bit more, because he has the experience to get on that moving train and slide into that role.

    Austin Will play, but he'll still stay in what they planned for him to do, at least early this season.
     
  20. Lizard72

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    Reading those comments on Purdy. You have to remember he's just started 7 games as well. Also, Kenny made as many tight window throws as Purdy did. Purdy also had some clunker throws under pressure, but his receivers bailed him out. Also had a few tipped passes that could have been INTs.

    We'll see how well he handles the rest of the season. Looks like they had a plan for Ayuk to have a big game and they managed to make it work perfectly. Most of the time he was college open and that's a recipe for success in the NFL.
     
  21. Animus

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    Hopefully DJs injury forces Canada to rely more on the run game and keep Pickett more as a game manager. Pickett has to grow from somewhere and 5 or 6 carries from Najee isn't enough. The team is built for 12 personal and a run game... muhfuggin play to the strengths of this roster. This fact alone is why Canada is fuggin garbage.
     
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  22. Formerscribe

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    The first time the Steelers played the Ravens, the running game struggled, so they featured Trubisky throwing down the field. They piled up some yardage, but he also threw three killer interceptions.

    The second time they played, the Steelers stuck with the running game. They were patient. It worked. Abandoning the running game and asking Pickett to carry the offense was a bad idea, one of the most recent among a great many of them conceived by Canada.
     
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  23. Animus

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    I'd rather get blown out sticking to the run game as opposed to getting blown out and destroying the confidence of our QBs. I think creating an identity is more important than winning football games. The identity just allows you to continue to build from it. At the moment this offense doesn't have a foundation or anything. It's a hot mess.
     
  24. Formerscribe

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    Agreed. I've probably been focusing too much on his poor play designs and failing to create space for receivers. Canada's biggest failing Sunday was giving up on the running game.
     
  25. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Sean McVay?
     

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