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Mike Tomlin Pulled The Reins On Deep Passing Game Last Year

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steelersfan43, Aug 1, 2023.

  1. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Uhhh that's not what we were doing. Did You actually watch the games, or is this just from stats, and highlights??? Just because You are not throwing 20 yards , or more into the middle of the field doesn't make it bubble screens. LoL
     
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  2. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    So you just want to dodge a very simple question.
     
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  3. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I know you don’t like Tomlin but how anyone can fault him for stopping that train wreck is beyond me. Kenny clearly wasn’t ready for that. He may have had 40 picks by seasons end.

    AND they won 7 of the next 9 LOL. Some of you guys, man, too much.
     
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  4. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    Well as you have said yourself no excuses for him this year right? We shall see… have a feeling the excuses will be flowing as usual! (Not by you necessarily)
     
  5. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I call out Tomlin when he deserves it and give him credit when he deserves it.
     
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  6. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    OK let me be more specific. Bubble screen left bubble screen right 2 yard out to DJ for -3 yards. He ran backwards in the above example.
     
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  7. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Snoozing

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    Guilt by association
     
  8. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Yes I know what teams they beat

    I also know that the steelers lost 4 games against teams of this caliber in the first half of the season which proves that yes the steelers have made improvements in the second half....was that a elite team?...nobody said that, but they were much better than they were in the first half...Sometimes being conservative can give a team the best chance to win.

    Red zone offense and more big play will be the next step for this offense and it will be very important
     
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  9. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough the offense needs to open up is the bottom line. It’s way to easy for defenses to load the box and move safeties up nearly every down.
     
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  10. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    That’s fine and I am overly harsh because it’s been over a decade for us having any real success. I mean the Duck year and last season he should get some credit for being 500 ish but when you look closer at the schedules you may see why. Not all teams are the same as much as guys want to spew that nonsense.
     
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  11. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Snoozing

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    Yes I did see the NFL teams they beat

    So more :bscow:
     
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  12. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Leave it to you to rail against them making what was absolutely the right call. It wasn't just about the streak. It was about what was right for Pickett's development. Even Roethlisberger was a game manager for a while. It made no sense to have a rookie quarterback throwing the ball over 50 times in his first NFL start. Yes, the offensive design is a mess. Yes, they are going to need to open it up this year and use the middle of the field. That doesn't mean they didn't need to play it more conservatively last season.
     
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  13. DJ18Baller

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    It’s fine to be more conservative in that situation but to not use downfield passing or the middle of the field is ridiculous for an NFL team. This isn’t High School ball these guys are damn pros.
     
  14. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    You can be harsh and keep bias out of it. The game plan for Pickett was a disaster, Tomlin was 100% right for stepping in there. I don’t even know what you are arguing, would they have won all 9 games if they continued to have Kenny throw 50 times? No, probably would have gone 2-7 instead.

    I don’t know what you are referring to when you say not all teams are the same, I never indicated they were.
     
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  15. DJ18Baller

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    I wasn’t saying you blast but many posters tell me that a win is the same regardless of the quality of competition. For example beating the Falcons is equal to beating say Buffalo or Philly or KC. Which is ridiculous and BS. As if strength of schedule isn’t a real thing.

    The team and KP in particular played better in the second half but a lot of that had to do with level of competition. When they played the tougher teams first half they got embarrassed in quite a few. I’m happy with the draft and am more excited for this year let’s see how it plays out.
     
  16. Steelersfan43

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    It would been 8-1 if Mitch would been more conservative vs ravens vs ravens.The steelers had only 5 turnovers in the last 9 games....3 of his turnovers were by Mitch vs ravens!

    Overall the steelers had only 2 turnovers in their 9 wins vs 17 in their 8 losses
     
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  17. DJ18Baller

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    That’s fine to take an ultra conservative approach when you are playing crappy teams with no offense like Atlanta Carolina New Orleans Cleveland and Baltimore minus Lamar. What about vs you know good teams? You can’t keep up. I’m a big Cowher fan but he was often way too conservative and it screwed us many times. This isn’t 1975 you need to score points to win a chip.
     
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  18. Formerscribe

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    To be fair, the Ravens were kicking their asses up front in that game. They pretty much had to open it up. Trubisky made some huge mistakes, but they weren't winning that game with the same super-conservative approach that worked for most of the final nine games.
     
  19. Formerscribe

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    Agreed, but that wasn't going to happen last year. That was always going to be a building year for the offense, especially once Pickett took over at quarterback. They aren't going to be a serious contender as long as they play that way, but it was absolutely the right call under the circumstances in 2022. At first, Pickett was trying to carry the entire offense and that was an unfair expectation for a rookie.
     
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  20. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    Some could consider this years schedule relatively easy. I guess there's one excuse already in the chamber if they make the playoffs. It's not Tomlin, Canada, Austin, or Pickett. It's the schedule.
     
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  21. DJ18Baller

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    Very true good take they were never going to contend last year regardless. Let’s hope things look differently this year so that next year we can possibly be in the mix.
     
  22. Steel Hog

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    Hope this won't happen, but it will be interesting to see the rationale behind not making the playoffs this year. Seemed like last year it was all Canada's fault as if there wasn't anyone else in charge of this team. Yet he is back and who's decision was that? Been gone a while but will try and do some catching up on here. JMO>
     
  23. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    Anyone that blamed Canada for all of our ills is a fool. There were so many other things going wrong offensively pointing a finger and one man is a fool’s errand
     
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  24. DJ18Baller

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    I don’t pay too much attention to schedules preseason. Besides the elite teams and the awful ones the rest of the mix can differ greatly from expectations. I’m sure this was a shot at me about making excuses when you and the MT fan club have nothing but for the last decade plus of failure.
     
  25. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    I just can't wait to badger you relentlessly when they win their next playoff game.
     
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