2023 Steelers Pre Draft Conference Thread!!

I may be way off base here and clearly the Steeler front office knows more than I do but I just can't see how they would value a 5th and 6th round pick as high as the #32 pick overall. I could see this if they were a full draft of players away from competing but I don't feel that they are, especially after this off season so far.

 

Hmm
I never even thought of that.

 

I agree. This kinda also depends on how far Kahn and them are willing to trade down. Personally, I don't go further down than say 35. You're still going to likely going to land one of the players we really like at that spot. But yes, I don't want to trade the 32.

 

The good news for me is that it sounds like Tomlin and Khan are taking pick #32 OFF THE TABLE, when it comes to trading up in the 1st round.

 

I was wondering what we could possibly get for #32? What's realistic? Just looking at it quickly, one of the better hauls we could get for #32 is with Vegas. If we swapped #32 for their #38, by the pick value chart, they would owe us 70 points. They have the #109 pick(4th rd), which is valued at 76 points. So, that could be in play.

BUT, if there is a bidding war for the pick, it's not crazy to think that a 70 point differential could be bumped up to 100 points. And Vegas happens to have a 3rd rd compensatory pick at #100, which is valued at 100 points.

So, they'd trade down six spots in the second to pick up the 100th overall pick. Which is essentially a 4th rounder. This is something that may be possible.

That would leave them with picks at 17, 38, 49, 80, and 100 in the first two days.

 

I'm not sure why #32 has gotten to be a hot topic, not so much here, but in the draft world.
It is a bit like a 1st round selection, after the first 31 are gone. If you sort of squint your eyes a little and stand on one leg.

But I do like having that pick.
I've gotta come out of this with a OT and CB both of starter quality.
If a marquee type player falls, say Jalen Carter, to around that 10 spot, that might be very tempting.
Still OT is a need I just can't ignore. Maybe the Steelers brass has different ideas? The temptation is actually more alluring to package a couple 7th's with that 17 to move up to get an OT. Even that is a risk to me. I look forward to how this actually plays out.

Round 1: No. 17
Round 2: No. 32 (from CHI)
Round 2: No. 49
Round 3: No. 80
Round 4: No. 120
Round 7: No. 234
Round 7: No. 241 (from MIN through DEN)

 

None of the draft value formulas would use the 32 pick.

it is possible to trade 32 for a 2024 1st though

 

I don't know exactly how the points/ formula work...But my guess is " a couple 7th's " wouldn't net you anything, as far as a move up in the 1st...

Somebody who is smarter than me ( which shouldn't be hard in the least ) can maybe elaborate on what those picks are worth...

 

I think they are going to move up from 17 and back from 32. I think they really want to upgrade the OT position and I think the OT’s are going to go earlier than we think. I think they will trade up and take either Jones or Wright. I think Wright is rising up the boards fast and he may go before pick 17. If they trade up to pick 9-12 and miss out on their desired target of Paris Johnson they figure one of the following will be their at least of - Broderick Jones, Darnell Wright, Joey Porter JR and perhaps even Gonzalez or Witherspoon.

If they take a tackle in the first I think they will take a DT or CB in the second. I think a trade back maybe five or ten spots from 32 will hopefully pick up maybe a 4th and a 5th. They could still have a shot at Tyrique Stevens or Bryan Bresee as I believe they would be really high on him in the second.

I personally do not think any of the OT’s are worth trading up for and I hate to give up draft capital. I would much rather see us stay at 17 or even trade back if our desired choices aren’t there at 17. I would do the same at 32. This draft does not have a lot of Blue Chip players in it that to me are worth trading up for, and we aren’t really one player away anyway. I would much rather see us stock draft capital and see us take advantage of a draft that has a lot of depth. If we stay put or trade back I could see us really solidifying the CB, Slot Cb, Edge Depth, ILB Depth, TE Depth, DT Depth. Sure we not get the top players at their positions but will significantly strengthen the roster.

Or we go after Paris Johnson or Gonzalez or Witherspoon or Porter but are they worth giving up depth at possibly two or three other positions? I feel like this is going to be the Artie Burns version for OT’s in this draft and we pick one because we feel like we have to have one and the only one that appears somewhat certain but still has question marks is Paris Johnson. I hear a lot of questions marks on Broderick Jones and to pick a RT at 17 is a little rich to me when you look at Darnell Wright.

SKoronski won’t be an option for the Steelers based on their desire to go big at OT. My desire for this draft would really be to not go OL at all and take a flyer on a devoplmental OT in the middle to later rounds like a Blake Freelund. Trade back from 32 and pick up some additional picks and go heavy with a DL, two CB’s, ILB and Edge.

1. Joey Porter or Deonte Banks CB
2A. Mazi Smith or Bryan Bressee DL (or Keeanu Benton at pick 3 if not one of the other two)
2B. Jack Campbell ILB
3. Quad Martin Slot CB
4. Blake Freelund OT or Ricky Stromberg C
7A. Developmental TE
7B. 3rd String QB

 

No. Local guys do not apply to the 30 visit total

 

Is it Kahn or Khan? Is it dyslexia or dylsexia?

 

Would you rather have pick8/9 and 32 or 17 and 46?

 

If I mattered.
Or if I were Steeler Draft Czar for a day...
I'd rather have those 3 high picks.
Round 1: No. 17
Round 2: No. 32 (from CHI)
Round 2: No. 49

But if the right player is in the right place.. the temptation is there.

 

I agree. With those picks there should be plenty of talent left to choose for.

 

As much as I would love to have Jalen Carter the team is probably better off in the long run with 17,32,49. As long as there are no offensive tackles picked with those 3

 

Actually Wright is now starting to head down peoples draft boards because of his Work Ethic that Scouts have been seeing.
https://www.newsbreak.com/knoxville...d-by-nfl-scouts-for-work-ethic-poor-character

He is coming across as college player who was able to get by on his shear size alone, and is lazy when it comes to improving his abilities.



I am guessing he will slide back down and be there at 17. Hope the Steelers trade up and get away from Wright and go after one of the Big 3 LTs on the board.

And, you get this feeling if you listen to Ramon Foster's pod cast with DK. You can just feel that Ramon is holding back his enthusiasm for the Steelers drafting Wright. The good news is that Ramon has said he has had discussions with Tomlin about Wrights abilities in the NFL. Both Ramon and Wright are from the University of Tennessee, so I would assume Ramon has reached out to some people he still knows at Tennessee to find out what really happens in the gym and in practice with Wright.

 

I won't go that far..... but we shall see.

 

I don’t think there are any real can’t miss left tackle prospects. Johnson is probably the best of the lot, but has only played 12 games. Love Broderick Jones, but he’s only played 14-15. Wright supposedly has work ethic and character issues. Dawand Jones would be a hard pass from me. As fans we have to remember a good gm isn’t thinking about the upcoming season, but 2-3 seasons down the line.

 

I would trade a 5th and 6th to get the 32nd overall every single year.

 

It sounds like Wright puts in just enough effort to get the job done. When he played against Will Anderson Jr. he put forth his best effort and totally shut Anderson down. When Wright plays against a lesser opponent he still gets the job done but without putting forth his best effort. In the NFL there are no off weeks so he better motivate himself to do his best every week but he is only 21 years old and hopefully will learn how to be a professional from the veterans on the team.

 

I got my information from the local Steelers Podcasts , etc. regarding Wright and they all seem to be high on him. Those same people do not seem to be high on Jones as they say he is very raw and has a lot of technique and footwork issues. From my own observations it is very difficult to tell because most of what a lot of us watch as fans is highlights and of course you are going to get their best plays. I do know the overwhelming choice for the number 1 OT is Paris Johnson and I did watch him in the championship and I was not overly impressed. He gave up some pressures and just from the eye test he did not seem much better than Dan Moore Jr. Based off that observation alone and assuming he is the best one of the bunch, I have a hard time moving up and giving up draft capital for players who I don’t view any better than what we already have. Like I said I really hope we don’t take the Artie Burns of OT’s just for the sake of taking one.

 

Might be an unpopular view ,but I'm staying put at 17 and 32 , picking defense in both spots then to offensive line...Then back to defense... Better not pick a damn qb, punter,or TE in this draft, that would be wasting picks. Feel like the offensive has some good young pieces in place, defense is another story. Need to restock and get younger on D.

 

I think they will take a QB in the 7th round despite what Khan said.

 

Some team might be desperate enough to give up a 4th for #32, if they trade up in the first round, then they need to trade #32 to recoup some picks.

 

Because everyone is off the clock and you can have teams get into a bidding wars for the #32 pick that can last for hours and hours. To me you want to make sure you are holding the #32 pick at the end of day 1, and then 20 hours later you can announce the winner of the bidding War, after letting all the other 31 teams make a bid for the 1st pick of the day. Someone is going to drop out of the 1st round because of a Position run, and then a team can trade up and snatch that player at #32, or the Steelers could hold it and snatch that player them selves if the need is there.


LOL... If they move they should pick up the trade teams 2nd round pick, plus a 3rd, 4th, or 5th round pick as well. This is what they meant by trading the #32 pick for a 4th or 5th round pick.