Jalen Carter arrest warrant

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He isn't going to answer that question.

 

In their deaths, he is blameless. They ( at least the driver) had agency. She didn't have to drive. She didn't have to race. And from what I'm reading, she's actually a staff member, so more of an adult than the players?

The driver of the car that crashed is wholely at fault for the the (non-accidental) part of the accident. It is sad she and her passenger died. But she was the one with the agency to avoid this. She and she alone.

 

OK. Thanks. Then that is totally different. I appreciate it.

 

However it turns out.....it's a tragedy that 2 people will not be coming back from.

 

I wouldn't say blameless, but as far as we know, he didn't force her to drink and get behind the wheel. I'm not a fan of shifting the blame away from the drunk driver.

 

Why should he? It's a silly hypothetical from a known troll.

 

IF I remember what I read correctly, she was 24 years old, so older, but not by much.

 

Why didn't he get charged for leaving the scene?

On another note, it was smart for him to go home, have a few drink and then go back to the scene so they couldn't charge him for a DUI. IF he would have stayed at the scene the entire time they could have asked him to take a Breath or Blood test and charged him for a DUI and involuntary vehicular manslaughter.

 

Because he wasn't the driver of the car that was in the accident. He was at best a witness.
And the second part is only going to work if A) you have someone else drive you to the scene, or B) wait for the police to come to your house. Would be bad to have a couple drinks and then drive back to talk to the cops.

 

Supposedly, there were some character concerns even before this incident. From what I've read, he is a little selfish and lazy. He likes playing, but doesn't always want to put in the work during the week.

All that said, he is still probably going somewhere among the top five picks in the draft.

 

The hypothetical was not silly. It simply crystalized the point about what it meant in this instant to 'contribute' to an accident.

He was not in the car with the driver who had an accident. He was simply acting recklessly independent of the other driver who was also acting recklessly independent of him.

Even if they shared a similar competitive and reckless interest in drag racing.

 

You only heard about it coz people died.

He won't drop to us. He won't drop at all. He'd go 3rd, 4tg or 5th. And if he did dropped to us the Steelers would and should take hhim(if all there is to it is him that's bad is that he was car racing after winning a Championship when he should have known better.)

It's a tragedy that 2 people died. But some seem to need a villain to pin the crime on. But there simply isn't one here. It was an accident. It's a terrible tragedy. But it's not this kids fault that accident happened.

It's his fault he was driving recklessly and that's what he will and should be charged with.

 

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Hopefully, the growing attempt to demonize this kid mainly is happening here... What Character issues? Mcshay made that claim, and people who knew him best ( teammates, coaches, and walk ONS) refuted the claim.

And the character issue Mcshay was talking about, was him not getting along with everyone. Not that he was selfish or lazy. Don't know where you got that from.

According to the walk-on on the Georgia DLine, Carter paid for him to eat with the scholarship guys with his own money. Now, neither claims of him being selfish or the rebuttals by coaches and teammates sufficiently closes the matter. But certainly, there seems to be some hope on your part that the negatives are true...

So long as you recognize this is just you projecting your wish that he is some bad kid as opposed to it being actually true.

Again, these insinuations and rumors don't constitute evidence of anything.

 

Again, and again you insinuate the worst and pretend it's fact.

You don't know he knew she was drunk. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. The fact that you just assume it off the bat suggests at best a pattern of bias on your part.

You calling him a POS again says more about you than it does about him. Seeing as you don't know for sure what he knew or didn't know. But you assume it anyway.

No wonder you think he is going to get off easy if he doesn't get jail time. You've already inferred every worst characteristic possible to the kid.

He let his friend drive drunk. Says who? It's possible she wasn't his friend. Likely they knew each other and cordially. But it's not a giving they are friends.

Even if they were friends it's not a given, he knew she was drunk. It could easily be the case that they were never together, but in separate groups in a larger party. And at the end while in his car getting ready to leave, she drove up beside him stuck up a middle finger and speed off. He knowing what that meant, "catch me if you can biatch!." And so he chased. And.they both acted recklessly driving at dangerous speeds.

That's just one plausible scenario. There are a myriad of other plausible scenarios in which none of your negative insinuations apply.

But somehow, because he is an athlete and is potentially about to become rich, you think he is getting off?

Pray tell, show me all the cases of regular 17-18 year olds drag racing where the cars not in the accident got charged with manslaughter. Go ahead, I'll wait.

Feel empathy for those who lost their lives. But stop seeking vengeance for vengeance sake. It's poor form.

 

Have no interest in Georgia or the bulldogs or this kid. I'm not defending him. I'm pushing back against your obvious bias.

I don't care what you call him. I simply point it out as evidence of your bias

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I am not defending him, I'm pointing out that you don't know enough of the facts to reach the biased conclusion you are reaching. I painted a plausible scenario where he doesn't. The point of that picture is to show you your conclusions are simply your bias not facts or reality. You want all the things you believe to be true. But you are projecting.

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No, he shouldn't be drag racing, period! It is irrational to conclude she was wasted ( another bias conclusion on your part). She has been drinking and was impaired. Whether that was obvious to others is a different question. I mean another kid got in the same car with her and lost his life . Is that kid a POS too for letting her drive him? He must be right? Why would you let your friend drive wasted, right?

Or do you only reserve POS monikers for those you don't like for other reasons?

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Any wrong doing in the unfortunate deaths. You know, the very point you try really hard to pretend you don't get.

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Again, your bias is showing. I'm not defending him. I'm pointing out your bias. It's almost as if you have it in for the kid. One negative assumption after the next. You can't seem to help yourself.
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1. I am not a fan. Have no personal stake. Went to Pitt in the Big East era. Have no ties to Georgia, SEC, or the kid. None.

2. You said he ****ed up. Pray tell. What should his punishment be?

 

According to ESPN, Carter was charged with 2 misdemeanors and was released on bond . The DA’s office says it doesn’t anticipate any additional charges. And he’s back at the combine.

Right or wrong, it doesn’t look like he’s going to face any long standing punishment.

His draft stock will likely drop, but I’d wager he’s still long gone by #17.

 

They weren't independent of one another if they were racing one another. Also, he left the scene of the accident and he lied to the police.

 

Hopefully, the growing attempt to demonize this kid mainly is happening here... What Character issues? Mcshay made that claim, and people who knew him best ( teammates, coaches, and walk ONS) refuted the claim.

And the character issue Mcshay was talking about, was him not getting along with everyone. Not that he was selfish or lazy. Don't know where you got that from.

According to the walk-on on the Georgia DLine, Carter paid for him to eat with the scholarship guys with his own money. Now, neither claims of him being selfish or the rebuttals by coaches and teammates sufficiently closes the matter. But certainly, there seems to be some hope on your part that the negatives are true...

So long as you recognize this is just you projecting your wish that he is some bad kid as opposed to it being actually true.

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Of course his former teammates and coaches defended him. Those are biased sources. That doesn't mean the accusations against him aren't true. It's not about demonizing the kid. It is about taking the available information into account.

I have done nothing here but present the information I have found, so your ridiculous claim that I hope these things are true is baseless. I don't care all that much either way because I don't think there is much of a chance that he will be a Steeler.

Edit: Pardon the issues with the quote function. Something in your last post seems to be throwing it off.

 

Thoughts?

 

This was the same knock on L C Greenwood