Hypothetical Belichick question

Honestly ...... Does anyone know how good he really is? With all of the cheating and all of the evidence being destroyed. Do you really think that the Patriots are on the straight and narrow? I don't and never will. He's a scumbag and will always be a scumbag. If he could really coach then why would they cheat?

 

11-2 exactly where we should be
Pats would be sitting around 6-7

 

We recall that differently and that's fine. But I don't think you can argue that Brady was a very marginal prospect coming out of college and he has thrived under Belichick. And the Browns are idiots so what's your point?

 

Why does NE always beat who they should beat? Why
can't we get up for inferior teams? Why are our games so boring to watch?

 

because they have a better HC than we do

 

All I can say us, with this culture of the league crap be hoisted against the Saints that if Goodell was truly concerned back then, he wouldn't have destroyed the tapes and he would have suspended Billecheat. Not to rehash all the conversations from then, but the tapes had to be pretty damning to have to be destroyed. Roger felt bad for making his buddy Kraft look bad, so the fix with the refs has been in ever since, lol.


Tomlin is in his 6th year. By this point in Billecheat's career, he hadn't won multiple Superbowls. Tomlin still has a chance to right the ship. And let's not forget we suffered through three losing seasons with Cowher before winning the Superbowl.

 

the Seahawks are a bad team ? hmmm seems to me that they have a better record than this " good team " we have here in Pittsburgh

 

it has nothing to do with what someones record is when you beat them or they you , it is about what a teams record IS for the season ...

that is probably some of you're misunderstanding in the other thread as well about how poorly Tomlin is vs subpar teams vs his piers in the league ...

why is it EVERY TIME I prove you wrong you want to start tossing insults by putting words into my mouth or twisting my words or the facts ?

man the hell up and just admit it when you are wrong

 

you sir are an idiot

 

you can not hold down a debate when only 1 party is logical and the other is a twit that does nothing other than twist words , ask pathetic questions in a lame ass attempt to deflect the debate and then make proclamations that a 2-3 team is much different than a 3-2 team early in the season when at games end they where equals at 3-3 ..... you honestly can not be that stupid ...or can you be ???

either way I can't fix you're stupid for ya ...

Dwins Out

 

1 final thing for you TOMLIN_ERA .... You're " GOOD TEAM" the Steelers are a combined 4 loss's and 1 Overtime win vs the chiefs ( they should have lost ) against a over all combined record of those teams of 19-45 ...some good coaching you're name sake does ... do not get you're panties in a bunch at me telling you this after all it is yet another truth you will simply deflect and change the numbers around to make yourself and your name sake look good ( or so you think ) ...

Note this piece and note what number 1 is this week http://www.nfl.com/videos/the-shame-report/0ap2000000110021/The-Shame-Report-Week-14

JUST SAYIN CHILD !!

 

so saying a team that goes 1-4 vs competition that is 19-45 is horrible in your eyes says they are good ??? Ok gotcha smart guy .... ( I am going to go ahead and guess after that remark when I look up stupid in the dictionary I will also find your photo)

 

Shaner82
I see that you a senior member of this board, which tells me you follow the team closely. I have a question for you, every thread I see you post and although my name is not in the senior member, I have follow this board under the old message board and this great message board and you always talking of other coaches. I have never seem you post anything positive. Yes I have read a few of your threads under the Bill C era as well. So if you please can you tell me one thing positive about the Steelers. I know it easy to find negative but what are some positives. I believe Tomlin Era stated it best what has Belicheat done that was so great cause I am in the what have you done for me lately age. I will recap for you. Won alot of regular season games, playoff, and had a perfect season to lose super bowl. Mike Tomlin no losing season since becoming a coach of the Steelers, won one superbowl and lose another. I do believe Belicheat won most of his superbowls when Bill was running the Steelers so what was you saying then we need a new coach. Shaner82 you always to say this team is no prepared, well I am here to tell you just read what a coach can and can't do during practice (Roger G.). Second all these motivation speeches to get team ready to play, Thanks to ESPN I hear Ray Lewis speech every week and what have the Raven done lost 3 in a row to get OC fired. If i made million and million of dollar I don't need no speech I will go do my job. I am sure you go to work and what speech do your boss give to get you to work harder?

 

What is there that's positive about this team right now? The last 2 seasons have been brutal. Just because I'm a fan of a team doesn't mean I'm going to start pulling positive thoughts out of my ass and spreading them around. I love the Steelers and desperately want them to win, but that doesn't mean I'm going to be positive about this team when they don't deserve it. I just don't see how anyone can be positive about this team right now. Sure, we have a chance to make the playoffs, but there's not a single aspect of this team that's playing well right now. When they start playing consistently good football, I will be positive, until then, I have nothing good to say about this team.

As for Belichek, I don't understand how anyone can doubt he's a good coach. His team shows up to play every week. Belichek's teams never seem to make the same mistakes constantly. He makes sure they're prepared to play and he makes sure they don't repeat mistakes. He holds them accountable, all of them, not just certain players. They play disciplined, mistake free football. On the other hand, our guys do nothing but come to games unprepared, come to camp fat and out of shape year after year after year, the same guys are constantly committing penalties, etc. We've had the same problems year after year with this team and nothing seems to be changing.

You can say what you want about the pats not winning a SB recently, but every single year they are in contention to win the SB. Only one team can win, and no matter how good a team is they're not going to win every year, or every other year for that matter. Look how good GB was last year and they didn't win the SB. It's incredibly difficult to win the SB even if you are a very good team. The fact is, the Pats will be in a position to win it all every year and they'll get close every year. Belichek is a very good coach. Even if you want to convince yourself that Tomlin is a better coach than Belichek, lets not pretend that Belichek isn't a great coach. Denying that fact sounds like sour grapes.

 

What would he do that Tomlin isn't? Simple question but there's no simple answer. I don't know what Tomlin should be doing differently because I'm not there to see it myself. What I do know is it's his responsibility to fix problems that arise. That's his job. Yeah, he benched and then scratched Mendy, and I wrote a book about my issues with that in another thread. He demoted Wallace on paper only, although Wallace admitted himself that it changed nothing. It was a meaningless move that affected nothing. Wallace got the same number of snaps he would have otherwise. The depth chart is meaningless to everyone but fantasy football fans. The fact is that when players continue to make stupid mistakes, it's Tomlin's job to fix it. When we have Oline problems for 5+ years, it's Tomlin's job to fix it. When we can't get pressure on the QB for 2 years, it's Tomlin's job to fix it. When we can't get turnovers, it's Tomlin's job to fix it. I don't know how he can fix those problems, if I had that answer I would be working for the Pittsburgh Steelers. What I do know with 100% certainty is that it's on Tomlin to find a way to fix those problems. Are the players all clinically retarded and as such are too simple to understand direction? Perhaps, but then it's on Tomlin to either make them understand and make them play well, or get new players. If the starters are playing undisciplined and showing up to camp fat, then those starters should become backups.

So what, he yelled at the team after a loss. Every coach on earth has yelled at their team. He suspended Mendy, yet he appears to let the rest of the team do whatever the hell they want with no repercussions. He's taking a stand against Mendy for a reason that I can't understand. Scratch the teams most talented RB because in his 2nd game of the year he fumbled the ball? Really? That's what Tomlin is going to take a stand on. Wallace can drop 50 balls per year, admit he loses focus in the middle of games, and that's perfectly fine. The same morons commit the same penalties every single week, yet nothing is done about them. It's beyond ridiculous at this point.

You're right though, Tomlin can't practice more often, but he sure can practice differently. During the Pats practice, Belichek simulated JJ Watt's ability to bat down balls, and look what happened, JJ Watt was a non-factor. Perhaps Tomlin needs to run his practices differently. Perhaps what he's doing in practice is ineffective. Perhaps Tomlin's insistence on never looking back at past games is the reason our guys keep making the same damn mistakes every week.

What I do know is something has to change. We've been having some of the same problems for years now and there doesn't appear to be a light at the end of the tunnel.