Did Canada do enough?

In addition to what SGSteeler said I think his gameplan prolonged Ben's career because Arians passing game involved long developing routes and Ben was taking a lot of punishment.

 

Yup. Haley helped Roethlisberger develop a more complete game, with the ability to throw on time as well as his playground stuff.

 

But, according to the torch and pitchfork crowd the only thing that matters is winning super bowls. We won exactly zero with Haley. So all the other stuff is just crap. An argument could be made that prolonging ben’s career wasn’t necessarily a good thing.

 

Just accept it, Canada stays on more year.

His contract isn’t up, Tomlin likes him and thinks he improve as the year progressed.

Cajun

 

Dude, it's the same thing with Cashman and the Yankees here in NYC, he's been the GM forever and they haven't won since 2009 so how long is too long. Haley kept Ben upright but we kept so focused on the offensive weapons we didn't really address our Defensive deficiencies. Let's just hope going forward we keep it balanced and address talent on both sides of the ball when we need to.

 

You're right. 6 points is 6 points but we can't score passing the ball. You're not always going to be able to run it in. And I don't think you can consistency run the ball once you get inside the 10.

 

How about rub routes? How about putting players in favorable match ups? How about a decent screen play? How about a swing pass to a running back?

 

Play-action passes would be nice, too, but he seems to be allergic to calling those.

 

Short answer . . . NOPE

 

I lost what little respect I had for Cashman when he whined about how much tougher his job is than small market general managers because he has to face higher expectations. Never mind that he can spend through errors that would cripple most franchises for years.

 

I see your point. You can try to scheme it so your players are in favorable positions. You can try to draw a DB or LB to a certain area. You can do lots of things. But open in the red zone in the NFL just isn't a thing. It's just so tight and congested. Every catch is going to be contested

 

RE: The Canada situation.

Tomlin should be doing his evaluations very soon.
Tomlin mentioned Pickett's opinion. Pickett and Canada kind of go back to High School Days.

I like Pickett, it should be obvious, but Pickett knows college coordinators and no Pro's really like a "Matt LeFleur"
The fact of the matter is, we didn't produce enough TD's.
That's a very good group of Rec's and just a quick scan and I think a few OC's would be very eager to take this bunch on.
RB - Harris is a beast and hasn't peaked yet.
WR's - Picken's is Mr Fantastic in nabbing balls that human WR's would not catch. DJ could be better with some additional coaching.
TE's - Freiermuth is proving out as a special TE and Heyward reared his head this past week with some critical catches.

If Canada stays: I have some issues there, as Current DC's and OC's have expressed some wonderment about our system. This is the reason
I am negative on Mr. Canada.
I prefer to rob some of these staffs that are in place or scan through the recent unemployed and try to find someone. SF's staff is garnering a lot of interests,
so I think that one will be well picked over.

 

Canada needs to go. He doesn't know how to design a pro passing game. Some of the problem was Pickett's limitations and Tomlin's desire to run a conservative offense, but route trees and combinations just aren't good enough for the NFL.

 

I agree, based on what other's that have been in the position or the opposite side have said.
I think Tomlin will make that decision - but it won't be based on anything we say.
I gotta give Canada some credit as a basic human being, in listening to his remarks, this past year has been quite a lot of learning.
I want to be crystal clear though, that's just basic honesty on my part. I prefer they move on. I am basing my preference on what a person like Scott Turner and some like him have said.

There is such a thing as battling through adversity, though I feel 'personally' that is not so much the deal here.

 

No...he did not do enough. The steelers offensive scheme if you want to call it is so simple, any average d can stuff them. In the 49ers , chiefs and dolphins with Tua offenses, the scheme is so good that you get wide open wrs at times. Meanwhile, the steelers need a perfect throw and a miracle catch by wr with a defenders on his back to convert any play over 6 yards for gods sake. Fire his butt.

 

Your overall point is correct, but Hill and Waddle would get open with anybody calling the plays.

 

Bringing in a passing coordinator would be a very good idea. That is where Canada needs the help. Canada's designs for the run game are fine. He just has to avoid overdoing it with the jet sweeps.

 

This

 

That's why selling the run hard on the drive is so important. If you grind it out down to the red zone and go goaline or heavy jumbo run set, the defense will have to respect it then like others are saying playaction or fake HB dive and pitch to the other back. Have the TE chip and release and you have an easy throw and catch.

 

Hey no disagreement from me.

 

I agree he is probably going to get another year and he for sure needs help...As you stated Route Trees and play design is key so a Guy who knows that and is great at Math should help...