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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by biggbunch68, Jan 2, 2023.

  1. groutbrook

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    As previously stated, I like to cap it before it turns into that.
    8-8 isn't the point. If I 'errored' in Tomlin's favor (obviously I know most his seasons weren't 8-8), would I be called into question and called a liar...
     
  2. groutbrook

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    You and I always seem to have a certain level of confusion between our communication. I don't convey my words real well, no games.
     
  3. groutbrook

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    I don't know what that means.:(
     
  4. SteelerGlenn

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    I never called you a liar. Let’s just have our conversation and if someone else says something take it up with them.
    I know you were trying to be a wise guy and overexaggerate. It’s not cute and it just makes your point look weak. If you want to criticize Tomlin by all means go for it. More than likely I’ll agree with you, but when you make up stuff this is what happens.
     
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  5. SteelerGlenn

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    Why cause in these guys minds every season is 8-8 because it happened a few times. They brainwash themselves.
     
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  6. groutbrook

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    Someone else called me a liar.
    I'm just surprised of all the absurd, outlandish, inaccurate things I've said about Tomlin over the years on this site, overexaggerating all the way, this is the first thing that got a response calling me out.
     
  7. groutbrook

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    I'm not they. I'm barely human.
     
  8. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Here is My only thing to say about the whole Coach of the Year thing. He has never won, and He has had every type of season You can have.....except a (so far) losing season.
    I really don't know what He would have to actually do to win one. Because really everything anyone says.....He has already done, and still hasn't won one.
    It's almost like the only way He could win one was either.....tank, and go 1- 16 one year, and make a comeback the next year, or......Go 17- 0, and win a SB.......because He's done everything else at least once....without winning Coach of The Year.:shrug:
     
  9. METALMAN_68

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    I didn't get overly excited with the "8-8" part of this and find the back and forth amusing but did you really just admit to saying absurd, outlandish and inaccurate things about Tomlin? Including over exaggerating? Isn't that the exact definition of a troll?
     
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  10. groutbrook

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    Is there a recent year you think he definitely should have won it?
    By recent I me last 10 years.
     
  11. groutbrook

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    Are you asking if troll is my pronoun I identify by?
     
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  12. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    Your game is strong.
     
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  13. SteelerGlenn

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    Not so fast.

    https://www.nfl.com/news/steelers-tomlin-voted-2008-motorola-coach-of-the-year-09000d5d80dd6025
     
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  14. groutbrook

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    I've never figured out exactly what an online troll is.
    I only read and comment on what I want. I have that option, it's amazing.
     
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  15. S.T.D

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  16. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    You basically just described one to a tee. Saying outrageous, usually untrue things to elicit a response. Especially when you know these things are absurd, outrageous or outlandish.
     
  17. S.T.D

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    I'm just saying....He hasn't ever won it, but He has done everything at least once....except (so far) having a losing season.
    So outside of what I said.....I don't see Him ever winning one.
    I mean the things people have said He would have to do .....He has done, and still didn't win one.
     
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  18. KMM

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    That's a whole lot of excuses for a whole lot of teams. At what point does the buck stop.

    People always place blame on Tomlin, but in all these other cases there's extenuating circumstances so the HC gets a pass?

    Also note, I specified Carolina under Ruhle. He clearly lost the team and the team's performance once he was replaced only seems to support that. We can point to Jacksonville this year vs last year under Meyer as an example also. Yes, all of these teams may have had their challenges, but at the end of the day they folded like they were holding unsuited 2-8. In 2019 when Ben went down, the Steelers could have done the same or this year when they started poorly and had a rookie QB starting and their highest paid player and reigning DPOY on IR. But they didn't. Doesn't MT get some credit for that?
     
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  19. steelersrock151

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    Don Quixote thought himself a hero but apparently had terrible eyesight. He thought that windmills were dragons, and would "tilt" (joust) with them to try to kill them.
    Basic translation is that you think you are fighting a heroic struggle, but you're actually looking foolish and accomplishing nothing.
    (sorry, taught English for 25 years)
     
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  20. KnoxVegasSteel

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    I agree that Tomlin gets some credit. BUT... if the remaining 3 pieces don't miraculously fall into place next week and they fail to make the playoffs, then this season is exactly what we expected to happen and it doesn't matter. Because the goal is championships not missing the playoffs or barely making it in and then getting biatch slapped to go 1 and done.
     
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  21. groutbrook

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    Even if the Steelers win some other coach will put them in the playoffs. Imagine being at the mercy of the Jets...again.
     
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  22. groutbrook

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    Thank you for the info. I remember bits and pieces of the story.
     
  23. S.T.D

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    He was insane, or pretending to be insane. It's been a long time since I've read it.
     
  24. groutbrook

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    Now I'm wondering if troll is good or bad.

    Since no one responding has a problem with the rest of my original post I guess everything I've been saying isn't absurd after all.
    Who's crazy now...
     
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  25. groutbrook

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    I was tested and the results were inconclusive so I'm fine.
     
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