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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by TerribleTowelFlying, Dec 9, 2012.

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  1. shaner82

    shaner82 Well-Known Member

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    How long can we blame the same players before we start looking at the coaches? How long do you blame the low level employees for lack of production before you start looking towards the supervisors? Tomlin needs to do something to change how we're playing. It's not just this game, this has been an ongoing problem for years now. We play unmotivated, undisciplined football, especially against weaker teams.
     
    shaner82, Dec 9, 2012
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  2. Stiller3

    Stiller3 Well-Known Member

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    I honestly don't know if I'd rather lose to good teams or lose to bad teams if I can pick between the two.

    Don't remember the last time I've seen it.
     
    Stiller3, Dec 9, 2012
    Stiller3, Dec 9, 2012
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  3. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    With so many people on this board its all one way or all the other way. It's plain as day that the players aren't executing. But people have agendas, they don't like specific people and then target them.
     
    Blast Furnace, Dec 9, 2012
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  4. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    Just got home, guys. I am not believing this! What is going on???????!!!!!!!
     
    JackAttack 5958, Dec 9, 2012
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  5. pellynch14

    pellynch14 Well-Known Member

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    ESPN curse...... One again they all picked us to win. They did this also with the Titans, Raiders, and the Browns, oh and KC
     
    pellynch14, Dec 9, 2012
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  6. shaner82

    shaner82 Well-Known Member

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    High draft picks alone mean nothing. Other teams plug in UDFA onto their Oline and they run the ball at will. Like I said, perhaps it's not the players but the coaches. If we've used all these high draft picks and it's solved nothing, maybe there's a bigger problem. You kind of made my point for me though. How long can you blame the players, especially when most of them are highly touted, young players?
     
    shaner82, Dec 9, 2012
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  7. Rush2seven

    Rush2seven Well-Known Member

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    Ben is our leading rusher. WR's dropping balls. Holding calls. San Diego's line blocking better than ours. What we have is a total team let down. Not Ben's fault.
     
    Rush2seven, Dec 9, 2012
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  8. Stiller3

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    Just to re-iterate. I'm not blaming solely tomlin. I'm blaming everyone who has anything to do with the offense because they've been garbage so far. (Except Suisham.)
     
    Stiller3, Dec 9, 2012
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  9. shadowmaker

    shadowmaker Well-Known Member

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    I love that commercial, "im just loosening my arm". :roflmao:
     
    shadowmaker, Dec 9, 2012
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  10. Stiller3

    Stiller3 Well-Known Member

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    Don't tell me Ben is our leading rusher, I don't want to hear that.

    :bs:
     
    Stiller3, Dec 9, 2012
    Stiller3, Dec 9, 2012
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  11. Boomer

    Boomer Well-Known Member

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    All this^^^Again...:facepalm:
     
    Boomer, Dec 9, 2012
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  12. shaner82

    shaner82 Well-Known Member

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    It's not one way or the other and that's what you don't understand. The players are playing awful, there's no denying that, but when the same group of players plays awful for 5+ years, it's time to start looking higher up the ladder to see if it's a systemic problem. Why can other teams plug in UDFA's and we can't even have a good Oline after spending tons of high draft picks on guys? Injuries are clearly a problem, as they always are for this team, but then perhaps Tomlin shouldn't have fired our strength and conditioning coach and replaced him with his own guy when he came to town. You can only blame the players for so long.
     
    shaner82, Dec 9, 2012
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  13. SteelinOhio

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    Not the first time this year. Far from it.
     
    SteelinOhio, Dec 9, 2012
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  14. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Tomlin certainly shoulders some of the blame for the team being flat this week. But tell me, who did you credit with the win last week? Did you give Tomlin any credit, or was that all on the players?
     
    Steel_Elvis, Dec 9, 2012
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  15. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    That we agree on:thumbs_up:
     
    Blast Furnace, Dec 9, 2012
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  16. BLACKnGOLDsince72

    BLACKnGOLDsince72 Well-Known Member

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    It's not logic it's fact. They're getting physically beat. Based on you logic I guess Haley is as bad as BA since the offense can't score any points right ? You can prepare all you want but all the preparation in the won't fix getting your ass whipped physically.
     
    BLACKnGOLDsince72, Dec 9, 2012
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  17. cory_86

    cory_86 Well-Known Member

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    Ben isn't the problem on offense, game should be 13-10 with Ben's pass to #17 alone ...
     
    cory_86, Dec 9, 2012
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  18. Stiller3

    Stiller3 Well-Known Member

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    Team victory.
     
    Stiller3, Dec 9, 2012
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  19. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Playing awful for 5+ years? What team have you been watching? Is there any team in the league that has been awesome for 5+ years? It's a competitive league. I'm not saying that Tomlin has done a good job today by any means, but saying that this team has been awful for 5+ years makes zero sense.
     
    Steel_Elvis, Dec 9, 2012
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  20. SteelAGirl

    SteelAGirl Well-Known Member

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    :this!:yup
     
    SteelAGirl, Dec 9, 2012
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  21. shaner82

    shaner82 Well-Known Member

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    I meant the Oline
     
    shaner82, Dec 9, 2012
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  22. shadowmaker

    shadowmaker Well-Known Member

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    10-10 if you use a FB to go for 3rd and 1 and then 4th and inches. :facepalm:
     
    shadowmaker, Dec 9, 2012
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  23. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Trust me, I totally understand, I just disagree with the level of blame you think he should bare. And you throw speculation around as if it were facts. We were bit by the injury bug before Tomlin fired the S&C coach, so he tries a different route but its still his fault, damned when he does and damned when he doesn't.
     
    Blast Furnace, Dec 9, 2012
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  24. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Oh Ok.... Can't really debate that!
     
    Steel_Elvis, Dec 9, 2012
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  25. truckin9999

    truckin9999 Well-Known Member

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    Colon has been downgraded to out.
     
    truckin9999, Dec 9, 2012
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