Kenny vs Bradshaw/mahomes/brady/rodgers

This argument was poor when people on the board made it in April and it is no better now. That Willis fell does not have anything to do with Pickett's value. They are separate players and very different. There is this false narrative that the primary thing separating them was that Pickett was more NFL-ready. Though Willis really wasn't close to being NFL-ready, that isn't the only negative in his game. He hasn't shown he can be read a defense at the snap. What he showed in college is that he would make one read, then start running, either downfield or scrambling around until he saw someone come open. He also struggles with pocket presence. If he couldn't process the game better against that terrible level of competition, how is he going to do it in the NFL? Maybe he just needed better coaching, but that's far from a sure thing.

Pickett does have a good feel for the pocket. He can process a defense and go through his progressions when he has time. I do think he is pressing too much right now, which makes sense given the struggles of the offense and how much they are putting on his shoulders right now. Canada really isn't helping at all.

 

The argument that there was a true round 1 QB in the draft last year was false. That argument still holds true today. The Steelers reached for something that did not exist out of desperation. This team was way more than a QB away and those idiots took two in the last draft. I could except taking a QB but only where it was real value and that value did not exist in round 1.

 

You don't draft a quarterback because you think you are a quarterback away. You draft one because you think he is going to be your guy for 10 years. How do you not realize that?

Funny how so many of the experts making projects for this past draft had that "false" idea. You don't like the guy, so you are pushing that same false narrative that Pickett isn't a first-round value because the other quarterbacks fell. It really is a terrible argument.

 

And you don't over draft one... That is what the Steelers did because they panicked and lived in their fears. He was not a first round QB period, even teams that had QB needs passed multiple times on multiple QBs... It was a very weak class and the Steelers should have waited until later rounds.

 

Not one time did I say I don't like him as a QB. Why would I support the guy and say he will get the bulk of his rookie contract to prove he can be more than just a guy. He has a long way to go to prove he is a franchise QB. The idiot Steelers put the pressure on because the sold him as pro ready and overdrafted him. No where did I say I don't like him so stop with the BS and false narrative stuff.

 

Who would you have taken at #1?

 

He was a late first-round quarterback and teams drafted accordingly. The lack of quality among the other quarterbacks in the draft is irrelevant. You are just assuming they are all the same. That simply isn't true.

If the Steelers didn't like the other outside linebacker options in 2017, would that mean they should have passes on T.J. Watt?

 

The pro ready narrative came from everybody, not just the Steelers. No, they didn't overdraft him. You keep presenting that as if it is a fact and it simply isn't true.

 

It is true, you don't have to like it or accept it. That's not my issue or concern.

 

They were all lack of 1st round quality... If he was that far ahead of all the others he would have been taken and not passed over. That is just a fact not a narrative LoL

 

Tyler Smith OT from Tulsa
Devin Lloyd ILB Utah

 

You are certainly continue to be wrong if that's what makes you happy.

 

Your narrative here makes no sense. It also shows an overly simplistic view of the process of evaluating players.

Pickett was a late first-round value. Just because the other quarterbacks in the draft weren't first-rounders doesn't mean teams were going to reach for Pickett in the top 10.

 

Looks like both those guys would have filled a need. Would you have been happy going into the season with Rudolph as your starter?

 

Yes because I know it was only a bridge season and I expected them to make a move for a QB like they did with Mitch

 

None of them were 1st round value and that is ok... The Steelers reached...

 

Lumping them together like that makes no sense. Would you say the Steelers should have passed on T.J. Watt if the other outside linebackers that year weren't first-round values? That is the argument you are presenting and it doesn't work. Pickett abilities are not affected by what Malik Willis can do.

 

Time will tell. If he turns out to be the next Joe Montana?

 

Time will tell if he pans out, but he was consistently ranked as a first-round pick going into the draft, so no, he wasn't overdrafted.

 

I don't follow any College ball so, I don't know who any of these players are. As far as their readiness? I just remember that Ryan Leaf was considered a first round pick and Joe Montana and Brady were late rounders.........

 

That is what I have been saying... I believe the Steelers will give him this contract to prove it before they move in a different direction at the QB spot

 

Quarterbacks are incredibly difficult to project to the NFL. There are too many things that go into playing the position that you can't really measure at the NFL Combine or team pro days.

Brady wasn't great at Michigan. Part of that was they kept trying to give the job to Drew Henson. I don't know why Montana fell so far. You'd think the Notre Dame guy would have gotten attention.

Leaf was a fantastic player in college. He had every measurable in his favor. He just didn't have the head for the game at the pro level.

 

On that we agree.

 

All I hear is blah, blah, blah.

 

If Pickett doesn't pan out, this is just one reason why the Steelers would end up regretting that pick for a very long time. How did they not even go to Linderbaum's pro day? Watch what he did to Devin White on this play.