Sorry, but the stats say Kenny sucks...

Yep.

 

I agree with those that KP is a work in progress and way too early to make ANY judgement of what he will turn out to be.
What is hurting him is coaching, top to bottom. He is working against defenses that I believe know what we're doing and poor game planning. He doesn't have a run game to help him as well as we've put together a K Mart special OL that is getting better but not good now.
The game last night was, to me, an example that we are competitive based on our players but there seems to be always something that gets in our way. Play calling and predictability, penalties, dropped passes or some other player issue, game and time management. We could have pulled this one out, but we got into our own way with penalties forcing KP to have to win the game. KP was trying to do things that he is not ready for yet and is getting little help. JMO>

 

I think Kenny got throw to the Wolves too fast.

You bring him in at halftime at the Jets. He actually rallied them, but made a bad 4th qt INT that got the Jets back in it. (Jet s seem to be better than any one thought)
You put him on the road against the maybe the best team in the NFL against the Bills. In a game where the defense was just blown off their feet and made Kenny sling it 50 sometimes.
Then he's plays Tampa Bay who coming in thought they beat the pants off us, he didn't play swell, left with a concussion, but did throw one TD pass, then Mitch rallied it.
Comes back from a concussion in one week did some good things, and did more bad things late in the game. Against the a team that was 3-0 before their QB went down who of course gets to come back and play us.
And now we face the only undefeated remaining team on the road in a place we never play well in the Eagles.

Probably what the Steelers should of down was let Mitch play until the bye week. We probably wouldn't of been any better record than we are now. Probably the same.

But playing 2nd half of season probably would of been the better move with his development. But, the fan base rushed it, the Steelers rushed it, so just we are gonna have to hope Kenny improves on the fly.

I don't think Kenny has been god awful but he also hasn't been good enough to make us win.

But with a crappy rushing attack not being able to help a young QB out, a defense at times that is up and down.

This is what we have currently.

 

Penalties killed the Steelers worse than turnovers last night, IMO. And the inability to catch INTs. I don't think Dolphins had one penalty. I may be wrong.

 

We win a game and Benny The Troll hides for a week

We loose a game and Benny The Troll climbs out of her hole

Who didn’t see this coming

 

I always tell people to goggle some of Terry's games. His early years he never threw up the numbers we see in today's NFL. Terry was blessed with some of the greatest players in NFL history. In today's NFL world the 70 Steelers would have won 1 maybe 2 SB's. Those great players would be eating up the salary cap of so many other teams.

 

They're generally the rule if you actually know football......
Ben and Dan Marino were the exception

 

Oh, so the worse the rookie season a QB has the better he'll be? In that case Ben should have had a terrible career because he had a pretty great rookie season...

 

I refuse to judge Kenny when he's playing in this offense. He's the 4th QB to fail running this offense in Pittsburgh. Maybe the problem isn't the QB?

Canada needs to be fired immediately. An entire new offense needs to be installed in the off seasons. I also now firmly believe Tomlin should be fired for the sole reason that he thought Canada and this offense was a good idea. It's been a disaster since day one. Ben, Mason, Mitch, and now Kenny alll look horrible running it. No one in the NFL runs an offense like this and then add in the play calling . the play calling might be the worst part of Canada and Tomlin stands there and supports it.

Kenny has 2 big problems. He can't read the field past 5 yards. When he does go deep it's almost always intercepted or defended. The other problem... the WR's. Drops have caused half of his INT's. SO I'm not willing to judge him on the fact he has 7 already. At least 3 of those should have been caught. How many were caused by bad route running? Our WR's all have talent but can't execute on game day. Also a coaching problem IMO.

 

1st 4 career games? He played half a game versus the jets. He played a little bit more than half the game versus the bucs. The Miami game was his 1st game where he played from start to finish. You add that all together and hes played a little bit more than 2 games total

 

He has not played the equivalent of 3 games. Half a game versus the jets, Little bit more than half a game versus the bucs, Miami was his 1st game from start to finish and only his 2nd start. That's the equivalent of 2 games

 

Don’t forget about Buffalo

 

That made no sense whatsoever.....
Is there a clinical term for whatever's wrong with you ??

 

Yes, it's called not having black and gold glasses surgically screwed into your skull.

 

You're right. I forgot about Buffalo

 

He does not suck ! Countless examples of rookie QBs struggling in their 3rd NFL game

 

I'm willing to bet my left nut that HCMT didn't want Pickett and he was forced to draft the kid by the higher ups.

I'm not giving up on him just yet but his play (at age 24) has much to be desired.

 

1/2 of the chuckleheads posting here would've cut every single one of them after their first season and picked another QB the next year.

Unless they were God-awful atrocious, it used to be that you gave a QB two or three years to learn, grow, and mature. Not anymore. IMO it's Big Ben who changed the mindset by having the instant success that he did in his first year. He was the most successful rookie QB right out of the box since Marino 20 years before him. He ruined it across the league. But the Steelers got lucky and BB walked into the perfect situation with what was in place around him. That was a far better than 6-10 team that drafted him. They were just decimated by injuries the year before and thus, 6-10. Everything was already in place to coddle and carry him.

I guess that it's been almost 20 years, so a lot of people have forgotten or are just too young to remember how it actually went down.

 

Ben had an amazing run game and a great defence. Pickett does not have the luxury of even a mediocre run game.

In Ben’s rookie season he rarely had to throw more than 25 times a game.

EDIT: He averaged 21 attempts a game his first season.

 

If the fans have even .1% input into personnel decisions, then the entire staff needs to be fired.
You can love or hate Tomlin, but he's not that completely inept. No NFL coach is.
The fans should have absolutely ZILCH to do with who plays and who doesn't

 

Or maybe it's called being a ravens, browns, or Bengals fan and using a burner account

 

Sorry, but the theme of this thread shows you suck. We need to beef up the O-Line in the draft. We shouldn't be drafting another QB in the first round or we will come out wreaking the stink of the Broncos and Browns with their carousel of QBs and destroying top tier QBs. Look, Burrow didn't look good his first year, before his injury, but came back stronger after providing him the support.

 

You can't post a comment like this! You know you are going to start the argument of "different era". Seriously, thought I agree with you. Gotta give him time. He actually played well, but the INTs are going to always be a blemish no matter how good the performance.

 

The positive is he's completing more than 68% of his passes. That's good. He's made critical mistakes that are fixable. What is harder to do is make someone accurate who is not. He's accurate. The mistakes he's making are classic rookie mistakes. The mistakes are compounded by the fact that he has no running game to rely on. I don't care who the rookie is you can't ask him to drop back with no running game and throw the ball 44 times and expect a clean game. At some point the coaching and team around him need to limit the opportunity for the mistakes we're seeing. At the time he left the Bucs game he had attempted 18 passes. Add in the 12 attempts Tribusky had after entering the game and you have a 30 attempt day. And the Bills game he had 52 (this game was of course out of hand and there was no other option). Net net...we're asking a rookie QB to do too much. We're asking him be the reason we win...when as a rookie we should be asking him to just not be the reason we lose and manage the game.

The sweet spot is to ask him to be 14 of 21ish (give or take)...and make 2-3 critical throws...with a good running game. This isn't going to all of a sudden come to fruition...we have no real run game to speak of. Last night was the best I've seen the running game and we still ran for only 95 yards (20 of that was Pickett scrambles). So 75 yards from your rushing game...not gonna cut it with a rookie QB.

At this point he's not awful, he's not great, he's a rookie QB on a rebuilding team (even if they won't admit it) with cupboards that are pretty bare are a bad OC. I just want to see him continue to be accurate...and learn from his mistakes...because they're going to happen.

 

This offense is bad all around. You can’t play a rookie and expect him to throw the ball 40 times a game and win, yet mount a 4th qtr comeback when your scoring 1 touchdown a game. The offense is checked out because of the play calling. You can see it on their faces all game. Yet we still have Canada here.

Kenny would flourish in a West Coast offense. Not this crap we are running now.

Our run game is non existent. Warren should get the start vs the Eagles.


Oh and WTF are they doing with Pickens. He dominates any time a play is his wait but they put him back in the bag like a secret toy.

At the end of the day. This all falls on Tomlins lack of preparation and ability to find quality coaches to help. The talent is there. The coaching has been abysmal.