Cowherd (terd?) on Pickett

I totally agree with him.

Starts at the 4 minute mark. Next years draft is QB heavy so figure out if he can play right this minute and if he's a dud, try again next year.

 

More often than not I would disagree with Mr. Cowherd here. That said, I agree with him on this one. Except... there is a problem; Pittsburgh's Offensive Line.


Does not matter if Mitch or Kenny start. Should this performance continue... neither will finish the season. Get that Offensive Line some help then worry about Kenny starting. Last thing the Steelers need is a David Carr on their hands.

 

Just saw the video. Yep, put Pickett in there soon. Don`t wait too many games.

 

This....we have not seen enough of course to know how good Kenny can be, but enough to see he has leadership ability, does not seem to panic and possibly develop into a good nfl QB. We have also know the history of guys thrown into situations where a putrid line has not only limited any potential growth, but physically pummeled then out of the league.

You can go through a carousel of 1st round qb picks..starts at a 50/50 toss up anyway, don't fix that line and the odds of failure are going to be that much higher.

 

Not much for Cowherd but he makes solid points about Pickett.

He failed to compute though the swiss cheese line these QB's have to work behind,

Watching the game a few times the Jags have a solid front four who can bring the heat. They were doing it with just the four. I don't know what Tomlin, Canada are going to mix up in the lab but its horrible. Could it be coaching somewhat?

At this point they can't be throwing the same 5 out there to see if it sticks like Leglue.

Dan Moore who was improving and had the praise of Ben last season forgot that you need to keep the arrow pointing up taking a nose dive this year. His play was one embarrassment after another against the Jags D Line.

James Danials could be replaced by Jack Danials and the result would be the same.

Kendrick Green should not be anywhere near a starting role.

And what about Mason Cole? Should they move him to left guard and have Hassenauer start at center?

Seems Chuks has been holding his own. This seemed to be one of the biggest concerns early on when they gave him the contract.

Can't start our future QB with this $hit play he will eventually get injured. He may be forced into action sooner then later Trubisky can only escape so may times.

I feel Pickett is the real deal and we have seen what he brings. So what about his age. Look how long Ben played. And what about Brady. I don't see the big deal about his age.

Maybe Kahn should be making some calls for a left tackle. Or wait for camp cuts there is always a big name let go. I had hope for Moore but you can't go into the season whoever is starting at QB with a turnstile player in the most important position on the O Line.

 

Play solid defense, run the ball well, keep the throws to minimum.

The O-line at the moment seems to be a weakness. That will hurt QB's.
James Daniels is not playing as he did as a Bear.

The Bears let a young OL walk via free agency, yes that's the "3-yards and a cloud of dust" Bears. For a three-year, $26.5 million contract.
I know I make this point, but I am still not quite ready to anoint Daniels as a bust.
The reason for that is that I have not seen this offensive line play as a unit yet.. they have to find that chemistry as a unit.

Daniels, a 2nd-round selection, and C Mason Cole, a third-round selection, just haven't found the connection yet.

Cole's story is of a backup thrust into action due to injury to Shipley, and he played well enough. Shipley left via Free Agency and Cole was the starter again but after the season, Zona traded him to Minnesota. I don't think Pouncy has any worries that Cole might surpass his spot in lure.

Dan Moore is more of a disappointment to me. He was drafted more for depth last year but as the NFL goes, you're going to be on the field at some point, even if you were the 12th best tackle in that draft.

Pat Myer is tasked with getting this group to play as a unit and he brings a decent resume. The schema seems to be straight forward using zone blocking foundations.
Sometime when you inject new talent into a group it takes some time to get that chemistry working.
Hopefully, over the next week or so, he can get this group functioning better. It's not a disaster but there is concern.

This will impact a QB no matter if the name is Brady, Manning, Bradshaw or Big Ben.

 

This is dumb.
I for one, think Kenny Pickett will be an above average QB in this league but if he wasn't his first year that doesn't mean you go draft another one next season.
That is what the Cleveland Browns did for two decades.
This clown knows nothing.

 

With watching our offensive line the last game. We will probably need all three QBs, because someone might die this season.

 

Cowherd is obsessed with QBs. Of course his opinion would be for the Steelers to start Pickett and use Trubisky as QB2.

 

Not just QBs.


Cowherd is obsessed with Offensive Playcalling and/or Offensive Minded Coaches. Defense has never been something he has been fond of. That said, Tomlin is one of the few Defensive Minded HCs he has respect for.

 

The loser's guide to losing.

 

I'll sort of disagree. Play Mitch till he's hurt or he fails as a starting Qb. Let Pickett learn the system and learn how to be an NFL QB. IF Mitch fails or gets hurt the play him. If Mitch does well then why on earth would you play Pickett?

Also consider our record for the next draft. If Mitch is good, we will not have a good draft spot for an elite QB anyway. If Mitch stinks then we will likely draft high. Picket then gets a chance to prove him self by week 8 or so.

 

even if we go 0-17 our picks better be at least two blue chip offensive linemen.

 

Pickett could play worse than any QB has ever played ( I don't think that's gonna happen )

And the Steelers still wouldn't take a QB next year...wtf is wrong with him...

 

Gotta admit, that's a pretty stupid take. Even for him.

 

You aren't thinking clearly. He's saying IF it's obvious that he's a dud, THEN you get a QB next year when the draft is supposed to have SEVERAL good QB's. We need to get the Franchise QB under center ASAP. Doesn't matter if we have to take a few cracks at it. Again, that's only if it's OBVIOUS that he's a dud, but I don't think he is so it's a mute point. The kid is 24 years old. No time to sit around and wait for a perfect situation on the O-line.

 

Not many first round QBs were so terrible in their first season that the team gave up on them. That's a huge cost unless you're 100% sure they're a bust. I simply can't see how they could determine that about Kenny who will more than likely play behind a bottom 25 offensive line.

 

I agree. But if a stud QB is there next year and you aren't sold on Kenny, you absolutely take him. But again, I think he's our guy and will show enough of it even behind this line so hopefully he shows it and we can focus on the O-line, D-Line and ILB next year.

 

I couldn't disagree more. If Kenny Pickett can't be successful in year one, it doesn't make him a dud. Adopting a mentality like this is what gets you to be drafting top 10 on a yearly basis. His arguments are weak anyways. Who cares if he played college games in the same stadium? It doesn't make him more likely to succeed in Pittsburgh, that's ludicrous. It might actually add some additional pressure more than anything. His age doesn't matter either because one of those years was wiped out to COVID and he wasn't really an NFL caliber prospect until his final year. There are plenty of guys with lots of college starting experience that weren't NFL caliber players right away. He has exactly one year playing the starting QB position at an elite level in college, and that's supposed to mean that he should be starting caliber the second he steps foot on an NFL field? Let the kid develop.

If he is the best QB by the start of the season and he's shown the coaching staff that he NEEDS to be in there over Trubisky, then by all means start the kid. That's the ONLY reason why he should start week 1.... BECAUSE HE EARNED IT. Not because he's older, or played at Pitt, or next year's QB class looks good, etc. That's a loser mentality, and it fosters losing like a deep rooted disease. Cowherd typically has loser takes, so its really not surprising that he feels this way.

Pickett might be earning that starting job anyways though, and that is pretty exciting for us Steelers fans

 

Nah, some of you are twisting what he said around. He didn't say he had to be successful. he didn't say that at all. He said" IF he plays a lot this year and it's clear that he's a dud". That's a lot different than saying he needs to lead us to a playoff or even win games. Anyway, I should have known not to post a thread and won't ever again.

 

Then, what does it mean he is a dud? Dud how?

 

I think everyone might want to temper their expectations, regardless of who the starting QB is....the way this offensive line has played you could play Tom f'n Brady and get bad results

 

Davis Carr sucked. Period.

 

His exact words were "with those advantages, if he can't succeed to some level (insert advantages here)... you've got a dud". That statement is 100% factually false.

Also, please don't feel like you shouldn't post because people disagree with you. The whole point of the message board is to bring people with a similar fandom with dissenting internal views together for debate. I don't think I was rude or had a personal attack.... I was disagreeing with what Cowherd said. Not you. Nor am I disagreeing with your ability and agency to post on the board. You are entitled to your opinion and I am glad you shared it. I disagree. So what. That's what we're here for. Cheers.