Mike Wallace vs Baltimore last Sunday

I believe the game against Green Bay where Wallace caught the ball in the back of the endzone made Holmes expendable.
But Wallace is know where as good as Holmes.
Holmes would take the tough catches, was more reliable and competitive.
To all Wallace supporters lets not forget in the Super Bowl against Green Bay, Ben went to Wallace 4 times for nothing in that last drive.
4 and out.
I could never understand why Ben never went to Heath or Hines who are more reliable in that last drive.
I to felt Wallace should have got both feet down in the endzone against Baltimore.
You want big bucks you make those touch downs.

 

I like Mike Wallace, but I am afraid him and his agent feel
that he is worth more than the Steelers do. I was hoping in AB's absence
he would step up and carry this team, he has not and I am not so sure
he is the man for that job. The Steelers once again signed the right guy.

 

i'm not sure the steelers will even give him a offer , he will walk and sign with some of team with a lot of cap

 

no contradiction at all, at this point in time I DO feel Brown is a better all around receiver but Wallace has the potential to be his equal if not better but he will need to tell himself that HE can be better. I don't believe he would be envious of AB's money (they are teammates and I assume want to root for each other). What I was saying is that Wallace has to watch opposing teams receivers who have less talent than he and feel slighted as it pertains to what he is making. Now might that contribute to his mental lapses, who knows? Does he or his agent think they are in Larry Fitzgerald territory? Again who knows. If Mike believes he is and the Steelers don't (I don't either btw) then his ATTITUDE towards the team would become a problem but honestly I haven't heard that in his interviews or necessarily seen it in his play, I just think he's just now scratching the surface of how great he can be but he has to see that as well. The big question is what type of deal will the Steelers offer him at the end o the year and will he negotiate if its not necessarily what he feels he deserves (Andre Johnson did to stay a Houston Texan but that's not always the case). I will say it again though should the Steelers lock up both Brown and Wallace the tandem could potentially be greater than Swann and Stallworth.

 

the problem is the steelers can offer him something like brown maybe little less , so let's say 6 /7 million a year , he wants more than 11 , so the f.o maybe will not even make their offer

 

i don't see our #1 taking less money then our #2. i wouldn't.

 

I think AB has clearly established himself as the Steelers best receiver. Call him the number two receiver if you like, but from a talent perspective he's number one and Wallace's negotiation shenanigans in the off-season cost him the opportunity to be the Steelers highest paid receiver.

 

Thanks for the clarification. I too think Wallace can be a better receiver with hard work but I dont think he'll ever be great. I think he can be an average to above average receiver with GREAT top line speed. To improve he needs to drop the misperception that he's already arrived.

 

AB sure hasen't proven it by getting in the endzone. wallace far out does him in that area. we win by scoring not style points.

 

I'd like to see AB score more TDs as well and I think they'll come. But are you saying that you think Wallace is a better receiver at this point? If we could only keep one of the two, which one would you choose?

 

I have now been deemed the President of the I HATE MIKE WALLACE CLUB. This makes me President of TWO clubs now! I am also the President of the I LOVE TODD HALEY FOREVER AND ALWAYS CLUB. This is exhausting guys! Hey JACK you wanna join my Wallace club? I've got like 3 recruits already. Wallace aint NEAR the player AB is! If TDs are how you measure worth then the Steelers should've cut Heath a long time ago. Haley will figure out a way to get AB in the end zone too. Wallace is a lazy route runner, he's got Ike Taylor hands, and he puts for Randy Moss in Minnesota effort. Let the bum walk and spread that cap money around. The only Steeler in HISTORY to make $100 million is Ben. Do you think Wallace is as valuable as Ben???

 

BFT I was hatin' on Wallace when you were still in diapers.

Seriously, I'm not a Wallace hater even though I've been accused of being one on this board. I'm a Steeler fan and when I see a player that tries to elevate himself above the team and considers himself to be the next coming of Jerry Rice when he's closer to the next coming of Renaldo Nehemiah, it bugs me. I think Wallace can be a valuable number two for the Steelers but I don't think he is now nor will he ever be a legitimate number one and he already considers himself to be that.

 

guys that pass was to far out out bounds when wallace went for that TD catch if you watch closely his one foot already went and land out of bounce before he reach out to catch it and iam sure he was trying to stand in bound and keep feet in the end zone. dont know why people dont see these things

 

i think we saw a glimps in the preseason without wallace. AB is a talent don't get me wrong, but he was alot less effective without wallace. i don't think AB will fair near as well as a number one. i'd rather have them all after a year in this offense. each of these guys help the other be better and the defense to struggle against them, including sanders.

why are we comparing heath and ben to a receiver BFT. we win by scoring. the rb spot isn't helping this year either. we need more scoring by sanders and AB. wallace gets in the EZ and has for the last couple of years. how would you like it if wallace came to your work and told them you think to highly of yourself ,so fire him? they all make to much money if you ask me.

 

LOL JACK! You are the man!

 

I agree that pass was thrown too far outside for Wallace to get both feet down, but fans just looking for something to hate on.

 

I honestly think he could have but in all honesty that should've been a running play anyway.

 

Stat wise, wallace is hands down the better receiver over Brown: He has started 58 games in 4 years, he has 30 TDs, 6 TDs this year, 3,769 reception yards, averages 17.4 a catch; Brown 33 game starts in 3 years; 3 TDs, 1774 yards in receptions, 11.9 average per catch, based on the stats wallace has a big edge in production, Brown has zero TDs so far this season and wallace has 6, so on paper and on the field wallace is the better receiver....

 

I could not disagree more, but if I could I would. Wallace is an average WR with exceptional speed. AB is an exceptional WR with exceptional quickness and above average speed. Without his world class speed, which obviously counts for something, Wallace is not even Jerrico Cotchery. If he's a 4.5 guy instead of a 4.25 guy I'm not sure he'd be anybody's roster. Stats are important, but where was Wallace the second half of last year? Where has Wallace been in the post season games he's been involved in? He's been wildly inconsistent this year, having some shining moments and then other moments where he has lapses and drops the ball, lacks effort, seems to give up , etc. Being Steeler fans we all know what excellence at the WR position looks like. The problem with Wallace is that he's already elevated himself to a position of grandeur that he has not achieved. The Steelers did the right thing by not caving to his contract demands and giving the big deal to AB. If they turn around and give Wallace a bigger contract than AB, I'll be one disappointed and perplexed fan. If Wallace wants to get realistic in the off-season and come to a reasonable contract agreement then I'm all for keeping him. If he wants to continue with this diva persona that he displayed during this past off season's negotiations, then let him walk!

 

AB scored in the Oakland game and also he had a TD called back for a penalty in the Skins game. AB produces in multiple phases of the game. I think the Rooney's must agree based on the fact that they paid AB when he wasn't even asking for anything. Do you think they did that to send Wallace a message or just simply because they knew without a doubt that they wanted AB locked up for the long term? Tomlin himself called Wallace a "one trick pony". Now would u pay a dude Ben money when he can only do one thing?

 

i don't think is very important to debate if wallace is the n°1 or n°2 wr ,the question is do the steelers will give him more than 10 milion a year ? ,
i say no ,debate closed

 

Hate is a pretty strong word for a minister?

 

What does it say about your opinion if you believe Brown is an exceptional WR that hasn't produce on the level of Wallace? Based on your opinion of Brown, you should believe that Wallace is better then an exceptional WR. Just because X player has different strengths or weaknesses then Z player doesn't make X player better. Up to is point of their careers Wallace has been a better player then Brown. If people scrutinized every other player on this team as much as Wallace people would find different strengths and weaknesses or issues with every player's game.

Only 3 other WR's in NFL history began their careers with better production then Mike Wallace. I don't know if that's a position of grandeur but it does mean that Wallace can play the position at a high level. Wallace's value be determined if he hits the FA market.

 

We win by getting down field and scoring points. Catching passes that move the LOS forward are an important part of scoring, even though they don't count as points themselves.

 

.... also AB may have more TD's if they would target him more in the redzone