Steelers sign Mitch Trubisky

I say Carolina is a lock for Pickett.

 

Agreed.


Matt Rhule seems OBSESSED with him. No seriously. Go check out some of the picks and how he was looking at Pickett yesterday.


Might as well have said "you are my guy" to everyone!

 

I don't see the Steelers giving up 2nd, 3rd round... maybe more picks to move up like that when they can draft a better QB in 2023 who is not a project, while drafting the BPA at either CB, DE, SS or ILB. Giants will want a king's ransom for that pick.

 

Yep.

For that matter, another possibility opens up for people who do not want a QB in this class. Expect a trading frenzy in the top 10 .... and it will be quite the spectacle indeed; one that which some of us have not seen in some time. Mind you that the Washington Commanders have been reported to be greatly interested in Kenny Pickett as well. Carolina needs Pickett... but so does Washington as they also need a quality option the same. Do not forget Atlanta either though I believe Arthur Blank is likely to play the long game here.


Truth be told... if the Commanders elect to trade up to New York to the 5th spot... that is where things can get dicey. That said, I expect Carolina to likely panic and possibly get baited by Detroit given the fact that Detroit can also play the long game and just acquire more picks. Should that happen, Pittsburgh's chances of nabbing Willis will increase.

 

Two 1st's and next years 3rd could probably sway John Mara and the Giants. Of course... this is all dependent on what Carolina does as they too have their eyes set on Willis. While I do believe Dave Tepper is intentionally doing this to force Pittsburgh to trade way up, he also has to concern himself over the likes of the Commanders for they can just as easily trade up for Pickett. Both realize that only one will get Pickett. Question is.... who is willing to pay the bigger price.


That is what is going to determine if Pittsburgh has a shot at Willis now that much, if not all, of the ground work is laid out for what the Steelers need to do. For me personally, lucky seven is the magic number here as that number is the second of two Giants picks in the Top 10.

 

Steelers have so many holes how could the possibly give up that much draft capital to get a project like QB? Willis is a freak athlete but his transition to the NFL and reading defenses making throws into windows is completely up in the air. Pickett has the hands of a 6 year old.

 

And he doesn't even have to change his jersey or helmet as he would remain a Panther.

 

I don’t know so much about trading up, but this is a very interesting thought

No one taking a QB in the first, or maybe even the second is taking one in the first next year

Well maybe the Browns

 

Mel Kiper says the Steelers will pick Willis and FWIW his track record with Steeler pick predictions is pretty bad.

 

Because people on this board don't think he's quality? There's plenty of highly respected people in nfl circles that consider him one of the best.

 

Is any of his track record good

Edit: he got 6 right last year

in a previous several year span he hit 25.2%

Benny could do as well

 

They don't have the giants, possibly jets, falcons, lions, texans(mills is a question mark), Seahawks, etc.. none of these teams taking a qb. Alot of teams are going to pass on guys. This isn't the draft for a qb High up. Most know stroud, Bryce young, etc.. will be avaliable next yr and will wait for that. They're likely locked at 1 and 2 barring some significant change next yr.

 

So ok...4 playoff games. Sad thing is He actually won one of them, and Here is what He has 2 show for it.
4 tds, 5 ints, and 5 fumbles, and 7 turnovers wow....way better. LoL
One simple question.....
Does Your neck hurt from stretching it that far out for Lamar??? LoL

 

Let's remind everyone You said We were 3rd best last year behind Ravens, and Browns.....so you weren't even close.

 

That isn't as sure of a thing as you imply.

I'm reminded of the Cardinals.
10th pick for Rosen.
Next year, 1st pick for Murray.

Or the Patriots.
They spent a second rounder for QB in 2014, even though they had prime Brady.

 

He puts so much out there that he stumbles into the occasional prediction that looks great, like the year he had Merril Hoge going to the Steelers as a late-round pick in his book, but that was never really his strength. The thing Kiper did well was he took information from a huge number of sources and compiled and organized it in a way that the average fan could comprehend. That had value in the '80s and '90s when you couldn't just go and find this stuff online. Now, not so much.

 

Rosen was a rare case of a guy who showed he was a bust from day one in the NFL. Also, that may have been a change at GM, head coach, or both. I'm not sure.

Tom Brady was 37 years old in 2014. I don't think anybody realized he was going to play this long at the time. It wasn't completely unreasonable to grab a potential replacement when they were able to get a guy they really liked in the second round.

Hell, Washington took quarterbacks in the first and fourth rounds in 2012, only to have the fourth-rounder (Kirk Cousins) end up a long-term starter when a knee injury derailed the first-rounder (RGIII).

Stuff like that isn't all that common, though.

 

True. Who knew TB was a complete weirdo who can't let things go?

 

They have but if you look recently the only sb where that had happened is nick foles and it's not like he just game managed. He actually was there best player in the playoffs and played like a hall of famer. He got 50 million guaranteed after that for a reason. And again that's like saying because Tom Brady was a 6th round pick that means don't get a qb with a top pick wait till the 6th rd. How many of the best qbs of all time were low round draft picks? Not very many. If only like 5 cases of something happens out of like what 100, why are you trying to follow that model? Winning a sb with a qb who's not that good is an Anamoly. Not the norm.

And he wasn't underwhelming his last playoffs. He was good against the titans that first game and then got hurt against the bills. Cant really judge him on a incomeplte game as the game was close and if he stays helsthy they possibly win. And against Tennessee the 1st time he wasn't bad. The game I'd truly say he was underwhelming was his first game.

Also lesser teams have done it but has there ever been a team that won a sb in a conference where it looks like 6-7 of the qbs could be future hall of famers? We've never seen this before. There's no way in this afc a average qb wins it. When the eagles won it look who was in the NFC championship. Foles and keenum..

 

Actually, you can judge Jackson by his getting hurt when the Ravens needed him. He has always been at an increased risk for injury due to the style he has to play to be successful. You need to stop dismissing that part of the package. He needs to run to be effective. He is a huge part of Baltimore's running game. More importantly, much of the success he does have as a passer is due to defenses having to defend him as a runner. The thing is, he;'s not a big guy. He takes a lot more hits than most quarterbacks when you combine running plays and sacks, of which he takes quite a few.

Regarding an average quarterback in the AFC, you did notice that the Bengals needed a 52-yard field goal at the gun to beat the Titans and Ryan Tannehill, right? That was the same Bengals team that went to the Super Bowl.

 

If both deshaun watson and lamar jackson get hurt then you got me.