Shaun King

Vicks brother did most of the acts. Vick was over penalized by the courts, media and even by the NFL when he got out.
Yet he came out a changed man. He donates a ton of his time and money to animals. And isn't afraid to tell people it was wrong what he did (he never once tried placing the blame on his brother, like he should have).

So yeah, I forgive the man. And I would trust him to baby sit my animals.

 

At least Watson is a quality quarterback in his prime. Vick is a bad guy and he was well past his prime.

 

He participated, including killing wounded animals. Based on his lack of empathy alone, he is a lost human being. He deserved every day in jail and should never be allowed to own an animal again.

 

just not a quality person.

 

No, he isn't. Even if he ends up with no criminal charges and the lawsuits are either dropped or settled, I have no doubt that Watson is a bad guy. I'm just saying that the Vick signing made little sense to me because they were taking a public relations hit and taking on a bad guy just to acquire a player whose skills had declined significantly. Given that Vick was never particularly bright and he had admitted to a history of not working very hard, it seemed like a particularly bad idea to take him on as his once-prodigious physical gifts were also fading.

 

agreed. that one was a head scratcher but that has also been a tomlin trait. always thinking he can make failures at other teams player somehow work under his guidance better, just because they were high round picks at some point. vick, haskins, joseph, ebron, barron to name a few.

 

I know this. With the stack of AFC QBs, the Steelers better make a move or be left in the dust. Rolling in with Mason is not an option.

 

I would have no trouble feeding Vick to my dogs but they are picky about what they eat.

He’s not changed. He’s a lying pos trying to save his image snd some people are dumb enough to fall for it.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled post.

Regarding Winston, if it walks like a duck snd quacks like a duck, it’s a duck. We don’t need a sexual assaulting duck.

 

Did you mean Watson? Winston has been accused of sexual misconduct, too, but he isn't the one currently facing 22 accusations.

 

Look at the court. He killed a few dogs putting them out of their misery. And was down there at his brother house rarely. His brother did way more killing and controlled the fights.

Vick funded it on its startup. That's what the court was more upset about. And the media lied a ton trying to act like he personally killed every dog.

But when it came to talking about his brother in court, he went quiet. Not once did he try to put the blame on others.

Now, it's wrong for what he did. But to serve that amount of time vs people who kill others is stupid. There's literally almost everyone in dog fights who only get a small fine. And even people who kill other humans who have got out of doing jail time..... So yeah he served way more than he should have.

Then the NFL wanted to go overboard after he was serving time.

Yet he came out being changed and helping animals. His literally helped peta and was considered a spokesperson. And then he's been a spokesperson for several animal shelters...... As well as donating a ton every year.

You and others might not want to forgive. But I do. And it's clear that Vick is mad sorry from the day he saw himself in the mirror.

 

The Seahawks and Pete Carrol also said AT THE COMBINE the Russell Wilson will not be traded

HACK

 

Sure hope not.

 

If players would be traded, I guess that could lower my anxiety just a smidgen. Watson carries a 40m cap hit in 22, then 22m in 23 an back up to 35m in 24. What assets would we want to offload to make that deal worthwhile for Houston: DJ, Claypool, Bush and/or Fitzpatrick? I really wouldn't want to trade Fitzpatrick though.

For the Steelers that hit makes it difficult to sign our current FAs and go outside the organization to bring in FAs.

All this makes me double dahn even more, and say our best route is Jameis or Mitch for two years and draft a QB this year or next.

 

You are engaging in a logical fallacy here. That some people serve less time for harming or killing other human beings is a problem with those sentences, not Vick's. Remember, he took a plea deal. That means he got off easier because after lying about his level of involvement initially, he finally told the truth.

He knew exactly what was going on there. He knew how the animals were being tortured and killed. He funded it. He watched. He participated. He killed some of the animals himself. It is thoroughly inappropriate to imply that it was an act of mercy when he killed those dogs, as you just did. It wasn't. it isn't mercy to finish an animal off after causing its suffering in the first place. It is just one more act of brutality.

That said, if I'm reading this right, he didn't just put suffering animals out of their misery. He put down animals that simply didn't do well in test fights. That's despicable.

It isn't about forgiveness. It is about understanding who he is as a person. He is a person who has within him the lack of empathy and morality necessary to torture and kill animals.

https://www.nfl.com/news/vick-sentenced-to-23-months-in-jail-09000d5d804ed94f

 

I was particularly beating a dead dog with Vick

But, my dogs wouldn’t eat any of them

 

You're right...they suspended Zeke even after he was cleared of allegations of domestic violence...that being said i can stand a four game suspension, but I want the player as long as they are not giving up the farm for him. He wouldnt be worth that even if he had no allegations.

 

And that would make it impossible to build a team around Watson.

 

I'm very interested in a DAMAGED Watson. Not so much in a dented can at full price

The one thing that Texans me to remember....Watson has has a no trade clause.

I think there might be 5 teams interested in Watson this year... but if those 5 how many is Watson interested in?

He already turned the Panthers down once last year.

So let's say the Panthers offer all three draft picks for the next 10 years

And the Steelers offer a 3rd this year and a 3rd next year that can be a 1st of Watson wins the SB.. and Devin Bush

Watson says I'll play for the Steelers but not the Panthers. What is his true value then? A decade of picks or a few 3rds and a LB?

Watson can say work out a deal with"this team" and I'll approve it.... or I'll just stay here for anotherv year and you can pay me $40 mill to work out at home again.

It makes no sense for the Steelers to publicly say WE WANT HIM.. as it just gives the Texans leverage.. and makes the Steelers try to outbid themselves.

I think the Texans will proba keep him for another year and gope the market is better next year after his mess is settled.

They have no problem eating the cap because they might not be "Dolphins" paying to tank... they clearly are not trying to win NOW


HACK

 

The big difference between this year and last year is Watson's out of pocket expense for the Texans in 2022.

Last year Watson's yearly Salary was only 10.5 million. This year his salary will be 35 million.

I am not talking cap expense, I am talking how much the Texans will have to pay him in cash this year.

To me this is a big difference in last year vs this year.

 

I completely agree... they can go from 20 to 100 in cap space with 2 moves.

I looked it up recently... but I might have the numbers off... memory not what it used to be

Watson will cost the Texans 40.4 mill this year...35 is guaranteed if he is on team on March 16th. If they move him before the 16th he has a dead cap hit of 10mill... if after the 16th... dead cap is 51 mill

Is crazy to keep him... but if they hell bent on 5 first rounders.. I let them eat it.

HACK

 

Bro he didn't lie to the court. He only lied to Arthur Blank of the Atlanta falcons and federal officials for a couple weeks. And then he started acting right and took on full responsibility.

He took his plea deal within a month.

Maybe you just listened to the media. Maybe you're just filled with hate. But you apparently didn't look into what happened.

Vick got charged way more than the other 4. Because of his money involvement and not the few dogs he killed. When the other people did way more.

He got charged in July. Took a plea less than a month into it.

The judge literally reminded him he did not have to accept the prosecutors recommendations..... But he still took it. If he didn't feel bad and wake up to what wrong he has done, then why the heck would he accept this stuff and accept a plea from the start?

Vick was bailed. But in November he turned himself in without being sentenced. (He literally was sitting in jail from July to December. That's 6 months).

A dumb drug test for smoking pot (look that up) it literally sent that judge overboard. And then the judge made up crap sounding just like you that he didn't cooperate with federal officials. Which was only for a week back in July.

Then he gets senteced for 24 months (already serving 6 months). And he donated a million dollars to help the dogs get adopted. Again, something he didn't have to do.

So 3 times so far on things he didn't have to do.


But then he got more charges due to this happened in multiple states. To which Vick, again pushed his attorneys to get it done. While the prosucutor kept postponing it.

He literally set in jail from November 2007 to July 2009.

Then he had NFL act like they wanted to do more. And if not for the colts HC, Vick probably would have never seen the field.

He donates mad money to help animals. He's a spokesperson at several places.


So yeah, Vick woke up fast after he looked himself in the mirror.