Love him or hate him...He had some moments!

Some people have this problem, but not all. I never hated Him. I had 3 Kordell jerseys. Who buys 3 jerseys of a player they hate....It doesn't mean I didn't realize what his problem was. Some forget how many times he would bounce passes off the ground. Sorry if asking Your Qb 2 throw the ball is asking 2 much.
I mean what crazy world are we living in when you ask Your Qb 2 throw the ball, and read a defense????
Also this bull$hit about asking Him not 2 run appears 2 not have worked since His last full season He had 537 yards rushing, season before 436. Every season he played the whole season He had over 400 yards rushing. So I don't think they were chaining him up from running. They ....OMG ....asked Him 2 read a D, and throw the ball. How dare them. LoL
As far as Lamar. ...ever since they caught the league off balance with their college plays.....His numbers have went down every year.

 

I'm not sure I have ever seen an OC say they were wrong and that it's their fault. That would be a very humble coach and one I think guys would love playing for. Most have a streak of arrogance that often blinds them to certain things. I'd love to have a round table discussion where Kordell, NOD, and maybe BB talk about the experience of playing for Cowher and the OC's they had, in Stewart's case all 4 of them. Just to see how many times they were told to trust the play, be patient, go through your reads, stay in the pocket and deliver the throw. Not that it changes history just curious about how often these wrong plays, wonky throws, turnovers, and miscues were more due to the QB's following the play as called.

 

So would I. I think it would be very interesting.

 

So I ask you @S.T.D . Where do you rank him in Steelers history and why?

I remember throws in the dirt.. saw Ben throw them as well

Of Steeler QBs with at least 1300 pass attempts
Ben completed 64.4%
O'Donnell is next at 57.1%
Kordell is 3rd at 56.5%

If you lower it to 1000 attempts Maddox had 58.2% bumping him to 4th.

HACK

 

My appreciation for Kordell was cyclical. When he got the start at QB, he was exciting to watch. But his running became one dimensional and when he was dared to throw the ball his accuracy was in question. He didn't always have the best receivers or game plan. He was constantly mocked for ill advised throws. When Hines Ward and Plaxico Burress came along he had two WRs who were willing to go up and fight for the ball. At that time he was being praised for his maturity and learning to "trust" his receivers to get the ball. When we went through the 2001 season and lost at home to the Patriots (Brady), I started to believe in Kordell and that loss was not on him. It was unfortunate he regressed the way he did for the 2002 season. He may have been ahead of his time, but I still feel his accuracy was always going to be in question. He was definitely given more leeway than most of our QBs have been given.

 

One stat that is a little sad, is that Tommy Maddox once held the franchise record for most 300 yard games (6) during his short time as a starter with Pittsburgh.

 

I would of like to see him with a Coordinator that believed in his skill set. He was a little before his time.

Kordell also went through like 4 different O-Coordinators in 5 seasons.

 

There was one season during the height of Flutie mania where Kordell was either hurt or lost the starting job and they were playing Buffalo and I was excited because after all the pocket passer garbage here was a guy who was undersized, underrated for a Pro QB but who just went out and played as if it was his last game and did the things that Kordell had the talent to do. Sadly I don't think it was the light bulb going on moment for the Steelers.

 

I would put him somewhere 3rd, or 4th. I may have Him 2 high, but I actually watch his whole career, and was as entertained by Him more time than I was pissed. Like I said before....I owned 3 Kordell jerseys, but I realized His deficiencies earlier on, and they always reared its ugly Head when We needed Him the most. People forget How pregame of those playoffs game they would always talk about ....So,and So is going 2 take away His running, and make Him throw, and that's exactly what teams would do(the ones that could), and there We would be .....same outcome as always.
People have somehow forgotten that if a team can take away the pass....You can always hand the ball off, but if Your Qb has 2 run the ball 2 play Qb....if You can take away the run....Well You're F**ked.
That's why You have a Qb, and Rbs.
1st and foremost the Qb most be able 2 play from the pocket.....everything else is icing on top.

 

Guess You didn't read it all. I said if You take away the pass You can always turn around and hand the ball off(that's why they make RBs), but if You have 2 run 2 play Qb ,and they take the run away...Your F***ked

 

I appreciate your reply, but still slightly confused. You didn't explain why you have him 3rd or 4th or why you feel he should be lower on Yue list?

The reality is he is 3rd in Steeler history

I feel like you and others are bothered by the fact that the 60th overall pick was a minivan and not a Ferrari... he was a 2nd round pick, and one of the best "cars" the Steelers ever bought.

Just because Ben was a Ferrari and Bradshaw was Mustang does not make the minivan garbage. Just different. Especially in a garage full of Gremlins an Edsels

He was what he was... an average QB Who still is the 3rd best QB in Steelers history

HACK

 

OK. We are just going round, and round. If this is so true why has No Qb that's rushed for over 550 yards in a season ever won a SB in that same year??? Also How come the Qbs with the top 20 most rushing Tds in a season have never won a SB??? Seems like if what You say is true there would be one in at least either Question I asked.

 

What??? LoL. Now it's Ben's fault . I asked two simple Questions about so called duel threat Qb, and the answer is Ben??? LoL.

 

Stewart has more playoff wins than LJ and Mayfield. Stewart also led his team to 2 Conference Championship games.... something the great Lamar and the great Baker have yet to do.

 

This. Partially though to be honest.
Kordell would go through stretches where he was good. He could beat you with his arm and legs. And then, just like that, he'd disappear for 4 or 5 games, unable to hit the broad side of a barn.
The biggest thing to plague KS was his consistency, or lack thereof.

 

They key to being a dual threat QB is that you actually have to be a DUAL threat. When you're a great runner but an inconsistent passer like KS was, you're not a dual threat, you're a running back (or WR in KS's case) who can throw.
Your arm isn't threatening anyone.

 

Winner.

 

Quarterbacks don't win and lose games by themselves.