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Steelers Showing Early Interest in Liberty QB Malik Willis

Discussion in 'The Bill Nunn Draft Room' started by SteelersfaninPhilly, Feb 1, 2022.

  1. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Are the Steelers going to play themselves? Because obviously a lot of other teams struggle to stop him.

    Also, Jackson was on his way to a monster season this year before the team was overcome with injuries plus Jackson’s own injury.

    Brady wasn’t telling Jackson he is next because he is going to become Brady suddenly and pick teams apart from the pocket, it’s because he recognizes Jackson is a generational talent and his style of play is what teams will be looking to find for themselves.
     
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  2. Lambert

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    Trubisky is 4th. ;)
     
  3. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Maybe they should sign him.

    Doesn’t change the fact Jackson has won a lot of games running a “college offense”.
     
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  4. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Have You ever looked at His record versus AFCN opponents???
    I'm telling You they caught people unaware with an offense nobody had 2 get ready for since college. That's the reason His numbers are going down,and not up with more experience.
    Also Brady knew the mics where there. He was just being nice. That's why everyone likes him.
     
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  5. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    Trubisky makes the most sense to me. He’s shown flashes of great potential and may have just needed a fresh start. He’s got the tools. Let’s bring him in.
     
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  6. Blast Furnace

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    I’m worried for you when Jackson wins a SB.
     
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  7. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    How will that happen when the Steelers are winning them with willis. :shrug::cool:
     
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  8. S.T.D

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    LoL. On this I don't think I will have 2 worry. I expect him 2 look even worse this coming year.
     
  9. Blast Furnace

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    I know, they are tired from winning the last 10 SB’s with Ben.

    Crazy talk! He was leading every statistical category for like the first quarter of last season. I even commented on it here how he had taken that next step.

    Everyone is talking about Cincy, the Ravens will still be the team to beat in our division. Steelers have their work cut out for them.
     
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  10. S.T.D

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    2 bad season aren't won by 1st quarters of the season. Hell Ben would have won a MVP if We just went by the 1st Quarter of the season in 2020.
    It's cool.
    Comeback next year, You, and FootballAnalyst98 can give me another excuse why He's not winning a SB. Eventually both of You will run out of excuse, or maybe not. LoL :shrug:
     
  11. Blast Furnace

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    Injuries matter, if I say they matter for us then they matter for other teams and Ravens had a ton.

    Hey, hope you are right but you won’t be, sadly.
     
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  12. Steel_Elvis

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    Go back and look at his game by game stats. You’ll see exactly 1 game (vs. Indy) last season where he had stats that make you say “wow, great passing day.” There were a few games with good but not great stats, and mostly games with average to below average starting QB stats. The passer rating benchmark for decent/average QB play is 90.0. He did that exactly 3 times in 12 games last year, and finished with an 87 (almost tied with old Ben). 19 QBs managed a passer rating > 90 for the season. Tua did it. So did frickin Goff, Wentz and Bridgewater. You’ve been brainwashed by the media hype of him. Just go look for yourself and compare his stats to any good NFL QB. He doesn’t stack up as a passer, which is exactly what my eyes have always said.
     
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  13. S.T.D

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    Of this I'm correct.
    Unless He totally relearn how 2 play.( You don't play this long ,and just relearn how 2 play)
    There is a reason they didn't let Him play anymore last year. He could not figure out the zero blitz. Hell Phillip Rivers made fun of Him for it on Peyton, and Eli Monday night football.
    It was not just his ankle. We've seen other Qbs play with way worse. Heck there are videos of him running in practice in a bunch of those games He couldn't play in.
    It all good though....because if I'm correct ravens will be one less 2 worry about. They still are a well run organization....So they will never be truly out of it.
     
  14. AskQuestionsLater

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    About damn time we agreed on something here! :drinks:



    If not Beavers, Damone Clark from LSU piques my interest as well. Christian Harris too but I seriously doubt he will be in play by the time we pick.
     
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  15. Steel_Elvis

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    Time will tell, but I agree with you that he didn’t play the remainder of the season because he wasn’t trusted to be a QB if he couldn’t also be a RB. In other words, if he can’t run, he can’t play QB. When you consider other QBs who have played on bad ankles, knees, feet, etc and were still able to lead their teams to victories, it’s very telling. How many times did Ben do it? Hell, even your favorite college QB Matt Corral played well for a couple of games while recovering from injuries to both ankles at the same time.
     
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  16. steelersrule6

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    Alex Kozora from Steelersdepot had Clark to the Steelers in the second round in his mock draft.
     
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  17. Rel

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    Most analysts compare Willis to Allen more than Jackson. Willis has a Josh Allen arm and is built like a RB so he can take the hits. I know people have concerns with his height but honestly, like wide receivers, I think that is over blown. The days of the quarterback hanging out inside the pocket are over for the foreseeable future. The modern NFL offense is all about the RPO and the play action bootleg. Height is less of a factor.

    Josh Allen
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    To compare, Lamar's NFL list is 6-2. 215.
     
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    I don't disagree with you. 9 times out of 10 an RPO play will not result in the QB running, it will be a choice between a pass and a handoff/toss to a RB. However, the threat needs to be there from the QB. Another factor is the play action bootleg, it's a defense killer and again, the threat of the QB picking up meaningful yards needs to be there.
     
  19. Blast Furnace

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    No one does my thinking for me Elvis, take a hike with that crap. You guys are still stuck on pocket QB’s. You and I just aren’t going to see eye to eye on this stuff.

    Jackson is a budding superstar.
     
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  20. Blast Furnace

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    Yup and some fans are shaking their fists at the sky because they don’t want to see their football change, meanwhile it has been constantly evolving all along.

    Taking away the ability to play defense was a much harder pill for me to swallow that watching new age QB’s like Allen, Jackson, and Murray. Hell, it’s more exciting actually.
     
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  21. CK 13

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    Thank you. Jackson + Super Bowl = :lolol:

    Howell I wouldn't mind at 20. Let him sit behind Mason, he will be #2 and Dobbs will be the 3. Send Haskins packing. Or trade him for an 8th rounder :hehehe:

    Or bring in Mitch Trubisky and let him and Mason battle it out. He's a FA won't cost a draft pick. Prove it deal. Cap hit was only 2,5 M. Trubisky will be the starter.

    Then they can focus on the trenches in the 1st or 2nd, With the Tuitt uncertainty they could go D Line. Or Center. I feel they will look outside for a center though move Green to guard and retain Hassenauer whos cap was only 780G last season and is a FA. That leaves Right Tackle. I like Dan Moore and believe he will only improve.

    Plus they need an upgrade at the Strong Safety position and Receiver.

    They finally are not backed up to the wall and have some dough to spend. Johnson will get a contract and I hope they retain Witherspoon as well. I don't know if they will sign Fitzpatrick this season let him play on the 5th year and then franchise him next season and then work out a deal.

    If Tuitt gets released there will be savings. Stop with the secrets and get an answer. I feel for the guy but enough is enough.
     
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  22. mac daddyo

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    i'm not sure what's changing in your mind but the last 3 SB's, heck more then that have not been won by this type of QB. that is the goal. it will be like the west coast offense, defenses will figure it out and a new sensation will come along. college and HS have been playing this style and the position is flooded with those types of player. it doesn't change the fact that a good passing qb that can use his legs when needed are the one's teams long for. smart, accurate, mobile. the grey matter means a lot. quick brain reaction to the defense is what makes a qb good. that may be your cup of tea blast but i'll take a guy that looks downfield and can hit his receivers out of a break and read a defense any day. :cool:
     
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  23. Rel

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    That's untrue.

    Mahomes is one of these QB's and won it 3 years ago.

    The last 2 were one by Brady and Stafford, a dying breed of QB, however, the past 3 super bowls had one of these new generation QBs on their roster, Mahomes and Burrow.

    How many pocket passers are left in the league? Any? The next several Super Bowls will be won by a mobile QB running RPOs and PA boot legs.
     
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  24. S.T.D

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    I call bull$hit.:bscow:
    The year Mahomes won a SB he rushed for 218 yards all season. Burrows rushed for 118 yards all season this year. In comparison Peyton Manning has rushed for more 157 , and 148 yards in a season. Was P. Manning a New breed Qb also. LoL.
    How about Mason Rudolph....He rushed for 53 yards in the one game ,and a Quarter he played last year...that's more than half of what Burrows did all year, and about a 1/4 of what Mahomes did His SB winning season. Is Mason Rudolph now a new breed Qb??? LoL :lolol:
    Stop trying 2 change facts 2 support this Bull$hit.
    Big freaking difference in a Qb that can run, and one that must run.
    Qbs that can run win SB. Qbs that must run...===0 SBs.
     
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  25. Steel_Elvis

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    Mahomes and Burrow bear no resemblance to running QBs. They can run, and do run successfully on occasion, but it’s almost always done as a scramble on a called pass play. Neither of those guys needs to run as part of the designed run game to win.
     
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