Who do YOU give the most rushes to? and Why?

This is not who you think Tomlin will give the most touches to, I want to here how Steelers Nation would use the three Running Backs.

How would you distribute the touches this week?
Who would you give the ball to on a Goal to go situation from inside the 5?

These are both questions I'm interested to watch for Sunday with Mendy, Dwyer and Redmen healthy finally!

 

Rac with most touches,... Dwyer in the redzone

 

Give the rock to 27...best rb on team right now.....

 

yeah i pound them with dwyer over and over again then to mendy in the late third when the ravens are tired.

 

Assuming all 3 are completley healthy(which I doubt if any of the 3 are, right now)...
I split the time pretty much equally.
To me, it`s more about which type of plays you give the ball to which back, on.
Mendy gets the outside runs, sweeps, screens, etc.
Dwyer, and Redman, are almost interchangeable, on runs up the middle, short yardage, etc.
I think Red may have the advantage on short passes out of the backfield, but then again, I haven`t seen Dwyer get too many chances on those.
The other part of this conversation, that isn`t talked about too much, when we just compare the Back`s abilities, is ..
Who are the best blockers? Who picks up the blitzes the best, when they aren`t running the ball?
And how does the opposing defense react to our back, based on who is in there, and what formation we line them up in?
What tendencies do we have, when certain backs are in our backfield on certain down and distances?
THIS, is where, I believe, we can do better at throwing defenses off track, by being more unpredictable.. we have the backs to do it...
And we haven`t even mentioned "wild card" Rainey, who so far has done everything from running up the middle(When no one else was healthy enough), to trying a reverse, to going downfield as a "speed reciever" from the backfield, to just being a decoy, to catching a screen...
Haley has a very imaginative mind, when it comes to designing plays,and he is just barely getting started with using our talent to our full potential...
I can`t wait to see where the future takes us with his playcalling..

 

Completely disagree. This Runnig Back by Committee garbage DOES NOT WORK. All it accomplishes is that it prevents any of the three from getting into the flow of the game. My preference is to give Dwyer 22-25 carries and let the other two spell him as needed.

 

According to PG 11-17-12 Mendy to start. I will go with Mendy for 18 carries,
Dwyer for 6 and Red for 6. Byron to complete 18 out of 30 and the Steelers win 17-14 Ops, I forgot Rainey, 5 touches in this game including returns.

 

I think you go with Mendy, being that the Ravens are 26th ranked agains the rush (who thought that was possible). It going to be harder for us to score via the air and he has the best break away ability, but I think Dwyer and Redman are both tough runners too, and if you see the ravens stacking the box with 8 your going to see more carries by Dwyer and Redman.

 

Mendy will get 70% of the carries, with Dwyer getting 20% and Redman getting 10%.

What I hope will happen is Mendy gets 70% and Dwyer gets 30%. I have no use for Redman whatsoever. He's slow, he has no burst going through the hole and he can't make people miss. I don't care how big and strong he is, he's a plodder

 

Whoever is the most effective. Mendy gets the first shot. Dwyer the 2nd. Redman the 3rd. More than likely Mendy gets the most. Dwyer gets some relief carries. Redman gets short yard situations.

 

This^

 

[SUB]i want mendenhall to run on 1st and 2nd down and dwyer on 3rd and short now if mendenhall resorts back to fumbling insert redman on 1st and 2nd down[/SUB]

 

Mendenhall is not a fumbler, so how can he go back to that? That makes no sense. Him being a fumbler is such a myth. He fumbles once every 129 touches. Redman fumbles once every 57 touches. Also considering that Mendenhall fumbled 3 times in what was his first season as a starter, and he's only fumbled 4 times since then, the stats prove he secures the ball very, very well, far better than Redman and it's not even close.

 

Wow....You are a true Redman hater....As I stated in the we have 3 starter capable RB'S thread,Redman like any Power RB in the world needs a push from the OL...He has proved that he is a great RB if the run blocking can give him a crease...He will be the most effective IMO this Sunday ,he has a knack for turning in Big Plays vs. the Ravens?Why would you want to just throw that away?

He has made blitz PU'S against the Ravens that no other RB on the Team could have made,I also think he is the only RB on the Team who could have scored on that slant pass...Redman is ranked 3rd. in the entire NFL with yards after contact,he is also ranked #2 in short yardage conversions,and according to the stats he ranks #1 in breaking tackles in the entire NFL....So these stats point to a very Powerful runner and when you add in the 150 yard game a very effective runner when we get it blocked...

If Mendenhall looks for holes against the Ravens he will not be effective..

 

ok guess you are right.......I guess i cant get over that SB loss (due to his fumble inmy opinion)​

 

That fumble wasn't even his fault. Watch the play again, he got destroyed in the backfield at the same time he had the ball handed to him. He never even had the ball completely secured before he got hit. There was no way he was going to hold onto that ball.

Besides, that one play didn't lose us the game. We should be thankful we were even in the game. The Packers WR's had numerous key drops that would have put the game out of reach, plus with Ben's mediocre play, we were fortunate we even had a chance at the end of the game to come back and win. GB was very clearly the better team in that game, there's not one play that cost us the game

 

You're right, I don't like Redman. I don't like that style of RB in todays game. Look around the league, it's being taken over with smaller playmakers, such as CJ Spiller. That is the future of the RB position in the NFL. Instead, we have a gigantic plodder on our team that has no acceleration whatsoever. I don't much care about his yards after contact, I'd prefer a guy that is a threat to score every time he touches the ball.

 

Oh, bigsteelerfaninky! You're so silly! What's it like for every day to be opposite day?

For their careers, Redman has fumbled once every 59 carries (5 fumbles on 293 touches) and Mendenhall has fumbled once every 152 carries (6 fumbles on 911 touches). That means Redman fumbles more than two and a half times as often as Mendenhall. I have shown you the stats many times now, proving that Mendenhall is not only better at ball security than the other backs on the Steelers, but better than most backs in the league. Are you opposed to learning or do you just not believe the numbers? Do you not believe in stats? I can understand that because I have issues with a lot of stats too, but these are pretty strong, don't you think?

I also disagree with your gameplan. Redman should be the short yardage back, not Dwyer, and Dwyer should be the one spelling Mendenhall, not Redman.

 

No use whatsoever? Doesn't he have one of the best short yardage conversion rates in the league, since entering it? I can't find the numbers to back that up, but surely you noticed he's very good in those situations. Since you've noticed he's slow as hell, you must have also noticed he does a fantastic job getting yards after contact, either by breaking tackles or just driving in the right direction. I agree he shouldn't be the starter and I'd take Mendenhall and Dwyer over him, but you're going way overboard with "the league is moving in ___ direction..." On 3rd and 1, I'll take one Redman over three CJ Spillers. And I don't think we're so short on roster spots that we need to sacrifice a complete running game in order to go in the direction the league is heading.

Side note: PWP, where are you getting this blitz pickup stuff? I don't know what plays you're watching in order to say he's better than Mendenhall, and you go well beyond saying just that. Are you going off of camp reports or something? To me Mendenhall graded out better than Redman picking up the blitz.

 

Ok Snack, I'll agree that Redman is very good in short yardage situations, but that's about it. Unless it's 3rd and short, I don't want to see him on the field. I think both Mendy and Dwyer are far more talented than Redman could ever dream of being.

 

What you're describing sounds to me like his "fumble" against the Ravens last year, when he got lit up by Ngata as he was reaching for the ball. That one was so ridiculous I can't believe he officially gets charged with a fumble for it (I took it out of his stats when presenting them). In the Super Bowl, however, he had the ball secured and had taken some steps. I agree that it's not really his fault though, because he was completely sabotaged by his blockers. If you're running by a guy who looks like he's definitely going to be blocked, and then your blocker runs right passed him without even touching him, the hit becomes a huge surprise. And Matthews got his helmet right on his arm. It's always a RB's fault to some degree, because he needs to hang onto it no matter what, but... Very tough to hang onto that ball, and given the amount of times Redman has fumbled over plays where there was no excuse at all, I can't imagine anyone saying he would have held onto it.

 

I am going off the tape of the Ravens games....In 2 games Suggs was killing Ben early and often until Redman came in and blasted him,after which he never came as hard again in both those games...On another play in the Ravens game he saved Charlie Batch's life..He picked up Ngnata and Lewis on the same play as both came clean..Overall I think Mendenhall and Redman are very close in blitz PU,but It looks to me that Redman actually delivers more hits and takes more steam out of the blitzers than any other RB on the Team...

His Physical play is whats needed against the Ravens,the are not a finesse Team and this game will come down to will,desire,heart,determination,and which Team can be the most physical for 60 minutes with the least mistakes...So the reason I want Redman to take a lot of snaps this week is IMO that is exactly the type of player he is...Also I expect to see some true Pony sets this week,there where 3 or 4 days in a row we heard reports from camp about wotking the Pony from a Ace set....

I could see Mendenhall and Redman being very effective in such a set as Redman can run all the Power stuff and Mendenhall could get all the Off Tackle stuff..This would also give us a lot of options in the passing game use Redman off the PA underneath help free up the middle and use Mendenhall on swing passes to help free up the flats ...And of course we could just Flex the 2 RB'S and Miller out and go 5 Wide if we caught them in a true run defense with that extra DL package and 4 LB'S that they run...Would force them to play cover 0 and give Wallace and Sanders room to get deep and lots of room for Miller,Redman and Mendenhall underneath.....

I will be shoked if we don't see the Ace set used to set this up...

 

the backs will go as far as the line takes them.

if lefty can prove he can throw it against the raisins, we will have a better chance of running it. if not it's going to be a long day.

haley also has to keep lefty out of all the 3rd and longs that ben has been killing the league at.

lots of things to accomplish in a short week for this offense.

our rb's as outlet receivers should be one of the factors for us this week. we have to keep them guessing as to where the ball will go.

i don't see us just lining up and pounding them into submission.

 

No, I meant Redman. I'm saying he fumbles a lot in comparison to Mendenhall, and on those (at least the ones I can remember) there aren't even special circumstances out of his control, like on Mendenhall's super bowl fumble.