Official Fire Mike Tomlin thread.

I "cherry pick" but you decide which seasons actually count as "losing seasons" (no rookie year, no last year, need to start 10 games, etc...).
I just posted the facts. Cherry pick to your hearts content.

Warner had years of 0-6, 2-8, and 5-6. All After his first three seasons, when he won a Super Bowl and had a 35-8 record. His last two years he was 19-12. The seven years in between he was 13-32.

Technically, Ben has had two losing seasons, a 7-8 and an 0-2.

But you can't pick just 4 Hall of Famers and say that Hall of Famers have only 0 or 1 losing season. I gave you a long list that disproves it.

And, btw, this thread is about why Mike Tomlin should be fired. You think Warren Moon is Hall of Fame worthy because he had 11 consecutive non-losing seasons.
Tomlin has 15.

 

Here in Baltimore, Baltimore media said Tomlin should be coach of the year running for holding the team together and not falling off the cliff.

 

Here in Pittsburgh, TSF Media thinks he should be traded to the Raiders for a half eaten Ramen.

 

"Bruh" is black? Not here in So Cal. "Bruh, brah or bro are surfspeak here.....

 

He also averaged a pathetic 6.3 yards per attempt.

 

Now scroll back up and read what I wrote previously. I called for him to be fired in 2018. That doesn't mean he isn't a very good coach, but sometimes a coach's message goes stale and the team needs a change. I also accept the reality that after 2019 and this season, he's not going anywhere. He didn't have talent that was above average for either of those seasons.

By trying to make the game against a vastly superior opponent the deciding factor, you are presenting an argument that is absolute and complete bull****.

 

Fans want to bash Tomlin for his coaching tree, look at all these failures from the Belichick tree.

 

This is the kind of statement that its hard to have a solid discussion about because the statement doesn't take into account why it is his best coaching job. If you look at two years ago and Ben gets hurt and is out for the season, that isn't something you can plan for, its sort of a end of the world type thing that no coach really plans for. Now Tomlin did an adequate job getting the team to where they were but still didn't address the things that made it a bad time like not having a backup QB ready to go with an offense that suits him. Last year Steelers were cruising along 11 wins and then fell off a cliff, they knew that Covid was going to tank the salary cap and things were going to get ugly with the youth movement. Then this year, yep great job getting the team to where they needed to be to have a shot but again a lot of these problems are of their own making and maybe he doesn't need such a great coaching job if they addressed the elephant in the room before the season started.

 

Brian Flores please. Someone is going to be glad they gave him a real shot

 

He might be a decent coach, but he probably needs to get along better with people in his organization, that was the criticism of him with Miami.

 

I believe he would do better than Tomlin. We wouldn’t be last in the NFL against the run.

 

Whose fault is it that our opponent is vastly superior? Peyton Manning was worse than Ben is now when he won a Super Bowl with the Broncos (beating the Steelers with prime Ben in the process). Peyton threw 9 TD and 17 INT that year!!! Ben was averaging 330 ypg.

Tomlin has built a team that is finesse oriented and requires star power just to function. The margin of error is so razor thin that every time a Steelers player makes a small mistake, that good teams can afford to make, that player gets vilified.

Anyways, you're saying it's not fair that I ask Tomlin to do what Kubiak did? It's not fair? Gary... Kubiak...

 

Tomlin has not produced meaningful results in a decade and needs to go but Flores isn't the answer. I think it's probably true that Flores cannot get along with others, and when you think about how closely the Steelers GM and HC work together it wouldn't be a great fit.

Let's remember that Flores has a losing record (basically a .500 coach) and has never won a playoff game. He was never a coordinator. He jumped from LB coach to HC. He has 3 seasons as a HC but apparently could not work with the GM and was obstinate regarding his take on the QB situation. Apparently Flores wanted Tua gone from what I can tell. To me Tua seems like a really good person and competitor and it's hard to imagine a coach being so angry with him he would lose his job.

 

I wore plugs in My ears since My late teens. Specifically for that. By word of My Grandfather.
Eyesight is going, but ears are still great. LoL

 

2020. Parts of this season.

 

Perfect answer. About How I feel.

 

Is 10 yards not a first down???.
So what. I can find a stat by every Qb .....every year that is the bottom, or that can make them look bad.

 

Mike Tomlin slept through the Raiders/Chargers game. I say so the hell what but it's a headline on the NFL page.

I could see if he stayed up for it. Honey I'm going to KC next week.......wait a minute maybe we can go to your mothers after all.........hold on.... it's good.....nope heading to KC you go to your moms.

 

Ah, I see. You are one of those guys. Everything bad is Tomlin's fault and everything good is the work of someone else.

I'm saying your premise is rejected as invalid. Do better.