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Discussion in 'General NFL Talk' started by dirty, Jan 2, 2022.

  1. santeesteel

    santeesteel

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    Breathe through your nose! I didn't say your man crush wasn't a good receiver. He's just not the God you make him out to be. There are better receivers and, WAY better teammates!
     
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  2. doubleyoi

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    to me the ankle injury excuse isn't passing the smell test. More likely the agent trying to save face. I find Arians more credible than AB's camp. But it is only my opinion, I didn't watch the game or know anything about the injury other than it came up with the suspension. Maybe AB didn't communicate to the training staff that he couldn't go. Maybe the training staff didn't communicate to the coaches he couldn't go back in. There is a myriad of plausible scenario's, but AB doesn't get the benefit of the doubt from me due to his history of acting irrationally.

    From his friend Bell, who said he won't say anything bad: "Obviously, he's had some bad decision making sometimes."
     
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  3. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

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    Same here. I just don't buy it.

    "My ankle hurts. Let me jump around and act a fool."

    If he didn't have a history, MAYBE I'd be inclined to believe him. I'm not saying the coaches might not have demanded he played hurt. I'm saying they weren't buying his BS that he was hurt in the first place.
     
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  4. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    No matter the situation, there is NEVER a reason to behave the way AB behaved yesterday. We've never seen anything like it in the history of the NFL. It shows that AB is a complete head case and needs professional help in the worst sort of way. I just hope he gets it before it's too late.
     
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  5. FootballAnalyst98

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    The thing is what he did was wrong. He carried it the wrong way but he had every right to be upset. What Arians did was out of line and if it's true they can file a grievance against the bucs.

    Also he does have a hurt ankle..prior to the suspension it was why he had missed so many games. He was also questionable prior to the game and missed practice multiple times last week.
     
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  6. FootballAnalyst98

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    In their Prime there's maybe only 3-4 guys I'd take over him. I don't care about the best teammate. That's not what makes someone a better receiver.
     
  7. FootballAnalyst98

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    You said I didn't specifically ask about Ben as leader. When I did. That was to show you what you falsely claimed I didn't do.
     
  8. FootballAnalyst98

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    Facts. Who wouldn't be mad if a coach said your cut because you're trying to protect yourself from further worsening an injury. That is against nfl policy.
     
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  9. santeesteel

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    Not what I asked at all.
     
  10. S.T.D

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    He's using someone else's comments against them. LoL :thumbs_up:
    Which is pretty great. He actually does this quite, and beautifully.
     
  11. santeesteel

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    Once again, your post. There's nothing here about leadership, good or bad.
     
  12. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. T.O. did it with many of Qbs (many not worth mentioning).
    Ab did it with Ben(HOF)
    T. Brady (HOF).
    Big freaking difference.
     
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  13. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Is there confirmation that AB’s side of the story is correct? I couldn’t care less about what AB, his agent or anyone else in his “camp” have to say about it. Zero credibility there. In the current environment where player health is a key focus, I can’t see the Bucs demanding that he enter the game with an injury.

    I don’t ever take what Rappaport says with a grain of salt.
     
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  14. FosterMorris

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    TO had Young, McNabb and Romo. That's actually really good. TO's best statistical seasons came with Garcia. All 4 of those QBs made multiple Pro Bowls.
     
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  15. S.T.D

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    Agreed, but why are You leaving out all the others, and only one of those is a guaranteed HOF. Whereas all of Abs TD are from 2 guaranteed HOFs.
     
  16. biggbunch68

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    ?? I can see BA telling him to get in the game, since TB was hurting for WR's, also can see BA telling him to play or go home if AB refused ..... but who knows ESPN is trying to spin it a diff way, but they are a bunch of hacks so i take them with a grain of salt also
     
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  17. Formerscribe

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    Just because Brown tells a story doesn't mean it is true.
     
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  18. Formerscribe

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    You are making the comparison in this very post. You clearly don't understand my logic or you are misrepresenting in service of your tiresome trolling. Brown's behavior, this year and in years past, goes far beyond any of the issues I have talked about. Arians had already established that he would not tolerate Brown's idiocy. If anything, his error was in going back on his word and allowing him back on the team after the fake vaccination card.

    You are making a comparison and it is a poor one. Brown's situation yesterday, when you combine the moment itself and his history, is far beyond those other situations I had brought up.

    Perhaps I was giving you too much credit by suggesting you are trolling. Perhaps you really are that lacking for a clue.
     
  19. Marvology

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    This is the funny thing about AB. Any time you see him acting like a total asshat, there's usually a reason, just not a justifiable one. Everybody should know by now what a douchebag BA is, I have no doubt this happened.
     
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  20. dirty

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    So now we are not bad people for laughing at AB due to mental issues? LOL!!!
     
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  21. AskQuestionsLater

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    We do not know how much Tomlin kept him in check? I respectfully disagree.



    Tomlin kept A.B. in check long enough to obtain the most production out of him possible. That is a good example of maximizing one's value; doubly so if they are as radioactive as A.B. Given the fact that A.B. had the best five year span among WRs in NFL History is nothing short of incredible.


    Finally and, as I stated, performance/tolerance league. Every coach does this. For that matter, there have been even quite a couple of characters the great Bill Belichick had to contend with; A.B. included. Sometimes it pans out.... sometimes it does not.
     
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  22. thorn058

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    You do understand that comparisons typically involve two or more separate instances where in you actually compare of to another or several things such as objects, words, ideas and so on. I have not sought to compare these event to any other by drawing attention to the similarities or differences in them. To claim that I am doing either is tantamount to calling me a liar or inferring by your statement that I am being deceitful or dishonest. I would thank you not to do so.

    Now as far as your trolling claim, I'm sorry to disappoint you but trolling lacks purpose and knowledge. If I was trolling I would neither care nor be bothered by any reaction I received as it would be a reaction and giving me the attention that such an act would provide. Since I have a purpose and knowledge I can therefore not be said to be trolling and I would encourage again to refrain from making untrue statements about my intent.

    My intent in all of this was to mock your absurd position that any attempt made by players to be terminated or traded by acting out should be met with hardfast resolve to not give in and that furthermore those in authority, coaches and owners should take into consideration what may happen after the player is released and act in a way that prevents said player from being gainfully employed by other teams. I position which you have now backtracked on and said that it doesn't include Brown as of you last post. It's absurd and wrong but you can't be wrong and so you attack me instead of your own position.

    Thank you and have a good day.
     
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  23. Formerscribe

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    As a start, you should learn the difference between a fact an opinion. Fact and truth are not interchangeable.

    It is truly comical that you actually believe Brown's ridiculous story, especially given how he danced off the field on the ankle that was supposedly too badly injured for him to play.
     
  24. Blast Furnace

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    Tomlin of course! LMAO
     
  25. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Come on man, stop. This isn’t Varsity Blues and Kilmer coaching the Bucs. He was cleared to play and he refused for God knows what reason. If that account is even true. If he was thrown off the team right there, why was Evans trying to keep him from leaving.

    How anyone gives any credibility to AB is beyond me. As if he hasn’t been behaving unhinged for years now.

    He’s a quitter, he quit on the Steelers, he quit on the Raiders and now the Bucs.
     
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