AB being AB.

Better hands- AB by far
Better route runner- Ab
More versatile wr- AB. T.O didn’t move around as much
Better after catch- T.O

I’m not seeing how In terms of playing the position you assessed how T.O is better. I would also take T.O but to say it’s no argument that AB wasn’t better is ludicrous. He did more things at the position better than T.O and most importantly catching. T.O led the nfl in drops MULTIPLE TIMES. AB never led the nfl in drops. They put guys who play wr at cb simply for their ability to not be able to catch.

 

who he here criticizes Ben for not being a leader. All I hear is oh well “everyone” won’t like you.

 

I'm not going to name names but, there are a few who claim he's a diva, some who say he's bi-polar, some who say he's a bad teammate hell, there's a couple who think he's a rapist. So, no. You're not paying attention.

 

And this, my friends, is one of the reasons that AB has devolved into the petulant, narcissistic diva that he is today. Too many people wanting to excuse his ridiculous behavior. THERE IS NOTHING RIGHT WITH THE WAY AB HANDLED HIMSELF YESTERDAY! I'm sure that Tampa Bay has team doctors that made the determination that he was well enough to play. Players play hurt all the time in the NFL and he should have at least given it a shot and showed his teammates that he wanted to be there for them. If he wasn't able to perform, then I'm sure he would have been taken off the field. Why would BA want him out there if he didn't feel as though he could help the offense and contribute to trying to win the game. That's ridiculous. It's time to stop defending this guy and his selfish and bizarre behavior! He obviously needs help and as long as he has his apologists he won't get it.

 

so an injury cannot get worse during a game? We’ve never seen players try to give it a go in a game and ultimately have to be taking out because the injury got worse?

 

beinf a rapist has nothing to do with being a good leader in football. Why can’t people like you separate off the field from on the field. I never saw anyone say he’s bipolar. So I’d like to see that. I have seen some say he’s a diva. I haven’t seen anyone here specially talk about him being a BAD LEADER. Specifically that.

 

Players of the past were certainly mentally tougher! Are coaches required to protect players who CLAIM to be injured, or do they listen to the medical staff? If he was too hurt to play, he shouldn't have dressed. Whether before the game or half time.

 

because teams don’t care about players or their best interest. Their only goal is to win. AB was trying to protect himself for possibly injuring it even further. He did act like a clown by pulling the stunt he did but people made it seem like he just pulled that out of thin air for no reason. And no one knows anyones body more than you do. How doctors a lot of times diagnose people? Based on what that patient TELLS THEM THEY ARE FEELING. He had already played prior to that happening so obviously when he was out there he felt he could no longer go.

 

Of course it can. That's why there are team medical personnel. If it's that bad, take your pads off AFTER the doctors say it's appropriate. Not in front of the fans.

 

I'm not going to do your research for you. If you're looking, specifically, for someone who said he was a bad leader, you should have asked that in your original post.

 

In case you forgot.

 

I would argue that teams do care (selfishly) about their star players' health. It makes sense that they want their star players to be healthy, especially going into the off-season doesn't it?

 

Opinions......everyone has them. Maybe, just maybe, Owens had more drops because he had more guys throwing it to him than Brown.

 

If Ba told me i was cut ( during a game ) because i said i was hurt and didn't think i could play, i might get mad and cause a scene too..lol,,,, This has nothing to do abt being an apologists for AB... Everyone assumed last night AB acted the way he did because he was benched and wasn't gonna have a chance to reach his bonuses... So yall apparently assumed that wrong ..Now yall big mad because he says he was hurt and coudn't play... its never ending with some on here, Its just attack ,attack ,attack

 

You cut me to the quick sir, I am shamed to have thought that I could ever keep up with you.

Just a quick aside I never mentioned anything about Brown and the Steelers or his scorched earth campaign that got him out of Pittsburgh. I said according to your theory that BA made a mistake in firing him. That his quitting on the team in so dramatic a fashion should be met with resolute determination and a forced benching to show all who come after that this will not and shall not be tolerated.

Also please help out those of us less fortunate than you and point out where I inferred that Browns actions were comparable to any other situation and then the point where I backed off. Your stated theory has been that no team should cave to player's bad behavior as it weakens them and sets a bad precedent for others coming after. Where is it I am comparing anything?

 

I think AB might have CTE or some serious mental problem. Hasn’t been the same since that hit to the head by Burfict

 

Btw that's all bull**** to cover his reaction. If he was too injured to play then he shouldn't have dressed. The Bucs were already hurting at wr position so to have a guy injured but saying he can go means they don't dress someone who could play the whole game. If he was injured during the game he should have been getting treatment and the staff should be telling BA that's going on. If the coach says to him either get treatment or get on the field and his feelings are hurt that isn't the way you address it. Apparently he wasn't to hurt to strip, do jumping Jack's and walk out on a team that gave him a chance after he lied to them and put the team in a bad situation.

 

Yea it started with Tomlin not being man enough too put a handle on it .. And i dont see anyone defending him.. Ya think AB is gonna turn down a chance at $$$$$ ??.... You already said you havnt liked him in years so your mind is already made up .......

 

Has nothing to do with it. How many qbs has hopkins had? He went ENTIRE seasons without dropping passes. How many qbs did moss have? Did he ever lead the NFL in drops. By your logic T.O is better than rice and moss because he never once in his prime played with a hall of famer like they did. It's not an opinion that T.O led the NFL in drops multiple times. That's a fact. Not an opinion that T.O did not lineup all over the field as much as AB. Not an opinion that T.O didn't have the same route tree AB had as AB played more positions in the offense. He played x,z, and slot. T.O primarily was an X.

 

Ankle seemed fine dancing off the field. Perhaps he got the fake vaccine injected into the ankle and not being able to play was a side effect?

 

I clearly said here who said Ben wasn't a leader specifically. Try again.

 

Have you played sports before? Are you seriously comparing that to ab at full speed trying to cut and change direction on a ankle sprain?

 

Answering yourself?
Odd.
Explains your love for Brown a little.....