AB being AB.

You and my wife would really get along. She is constantly on my **** about how I write and speak. My reply to her is simple, "I may not have said it or wrote it the way the way society has decreed but it's the same damn meaning.

 

He dealt with it because Brown was the best receiver in the NFL for a while.

 

Wow. Trolling on a thread on the part of the board where I rarely post. I'm sorry. I'm not paying rent for the space I own in your head.

You really aren't foolish enough to think Brown, with those actions and his history, is really a comparable situation to Ingram and Blount, are you?

 

That's just my point. I know he wont be in early but he definitely will eventually get in. You all are saying never. It's no way he never gets in. You can honestly argue at his peak he was even better than T.O was.

 

All he said was he had protection problems. Thats a very vague statement. That could've been interpreted as the coaching staff had bad line calls and adjustments. Could've been a shot at himself saying he didn't make the right protection calls as he was literally the coach on the field.. Entirely different then saying I threw an int and calling a guy BY HIS NAME to say HE RAN THE WRONF ROUTE as the reason why I threw a pick. And a guy in Emmanuel sanders who played with BOTH swore by manning as a leader, was on eof the first things he said directly after leaving Pittsburgh, and Called Ben even just a few years ago a bad teammate and leader. And isn't like he's some headcase or something he's still in the league with a job on a productive team.

 

Look at what Brady just said after ab made a fool of himself. He said we love and support him and he doesn't deserve people talking bad about him. Why couldn't been give encouraging words about Claypool instead of being dismissive. That was Bruce Arians jib to say that about AB. Brady didn't have to say anything. I didn't just say Brady. I gave you several other qbs with NO teammates bad mouthing them and calling them a bad leader. So again why other than maybe Rodgers has no one been that critical of their former qb and they literally swear by them?

 

I never said he had to get more respect. People here though just because Ben stayed loyal to them team act like he's some perfect angel when several of his teammates some that you all Gove the highest of repeat to such as Hines ward has criticized him and his leadership. That's part of why he's breaking down the way he is now. His obsession with the game wasn't like others. He should be able to play well into his 40s like Brady, Rodgers, Brees, etc.. but he's not because doing everything the right way always didn't matter to be ben. It was about him and what he wanted.

 

Knew it was more to the story after everyone here was acting like he just acted out for no reason. Apparently AB who had been injured for WEEKS and didn't practice most this week felt during the game he wasn't right or healthy. The bucs coaching staff told him to go into the game and he refused due to him not feeling right. Arians reportedly told him if you won't go into the game you can't be here and essentially cut him om the sideline. That's what caused his outburst.

 

Ab did nothing wrong.

 

No Im saying that he should have been fired in both cases and and also in Oakland and NE as well but some hard core people on this board will tell you and me that caving to his actions is a bad look and they should force him to sit on the bench to prove some greater point about being tough.

 

YOU might argue that. As big a jagoff as Owens was, he was better than Brown.

 

Me? no I don't think they are comparable at all but then again I am not saying that when a player quits on the team and walks out that they should force him to stay just to prove some obscure point about being tough, nor am I suggesting that they should consider that he could sign with a team TB might face in the near distant future in order to prevent it causing them to be bitten in the backside for the firing. Tell me again how should they do it? I'll leave the light on for you I'm a considerate landlord.

 

If it were someone else, I'd agree with making him sit. Since this is a guy who took off his clothes and walked off the field during a televised game, who thinks he would actually just sit on the bench?
"Baby please. You are making a German spectacle of yourself."

 

It's an argument. Ab certainly had the better hands by far T.O led the league in drops multiple times. I'd argue ab was the better route runner as well. T.o was better after the catch, better blocker, and AB's best years are better than T.Os.

 

Had you even been born yet when Owens came in to the league? Yes, it makes a difference. You can look at stats all day long but, they don't tell the whole story. Having seen them both play, I'd give the edge to Owens. Brown's best years were with one guy throwing to him. Owens remained a force no matter who was throwing it (and whoever he was throwing under the bus) If I had to start a team from scratch, I actually wouldn't want either of them but, the difference between the two head cases is that Owens was a big threat even after he lost his mind. Brown can't be a threat if he's not on the field. Whether it's league discipline, legal trouble, fake vaccination card or quitting/being fired DURING a game.

 

I knew there had to be something behind his actions . it wasn't just AB being a ******* in fact his actions wasn.t ******* behavior at all IMO...Now lets see how many on here attack BA and his coaching staff for their actions

 

FWIW, Claypool hasn't been celebrating every catch since.

 

You trolling? Yes.

You inferring the situations are comparable, then backing away once I pointed out how ridiculous that is? Yes.

Also, it is a practical point. If teams demonstrate that they will cave every time a player wants out as long as the player is willing to behave poorly, that encourages more players to try it.

Keep in mind that the Steelers didn't trade Brown for quitting on the team. They actually tried to talk him into coming back and he refused to try to work it out.

 

If he had a boo boo, why did he even suit up? He could have been a diva and refused to play BEFORE the game. Arians did the right thing at the wrong time. Brown didn't have to showboat, he could have just walked to the locker room. Instead he "took his ball and went home" in front of the cameras.
There are those on here who bash Tomlin for excusing Brown's antics but now want to bash Arians because he wouldn't let a player dictate when they go into the game? Hell, Terrell Davis played with a blinding migraine knowing he was only going to be used as a decoy. Ronnie Lott cut off the tip of his own finger so he could play. There's a bunch of example of players playing with broken legs, ribs, arms, with the flu. Why is Brown special? Did team doctors clear him to play? Anyone, besides him, say he "wasn't right" and shouldn't play?

 

yes. T.O was actually one of my fav players as a kid. I remember how he came to Philly and they were all screaming his name because he was balling. I remember him in Dallas. I remember him doing the ray Lewis dance after scoring a td vs the ravens I was actually at that game. I actually rooted for the eagles when he went there because he and Mcnabb were two of my fav players at the time. I remember him in the sb killing the patriots on 1 league. He was a force and a top 5 wr to ever play this game. I saw AB regardless of how short it was go to another team without Ben and ball out. He just a week ago had 10 for over 100. So his best years wasn’t just because Ben. He could’ve went to plenty of other teams and balled and Tom Brady on of the smartest players ever is not going to constantly vouch for some guy so badly to play with if he was into good due to Big Ben. Ab obviously is a great individual talent. Why didn’t Ben who played 15 plus years have anyone else put up numbers like AB? And he played with other all pros who went other players and did more without Ben. So that isn’t adding up. Your reasons for taking owens aren’t because of his ability at the wide receiver position over AB.

 

they won’t. Just like no one here will criticize Ben for anything he has done and act like he’s some perfect angel.

 

Yes, yes they are. Your reason for the opposite seem to be emotion based.

 

No one? You haven't been paying attention!

 

Those players you speak of are years past,and where both physically and mentally tougher than todays players....What happened to coaches protecting the players when they are hurt.... Shannon Sharp just said the truth.. " This would have never happened if Coach after coach didn't condone AB's behavior through out the years"( including Tomlin)..