Just Say “No” to the Franchise QB

So I guess they should build around Mason Rudolph...

 

I could be wrong, but I saw the ref motion to the head/neck area (specifically the neck) which is why he flagged him. Even still, not a good call.

 

Neither.

 

Good points made in all your posts. Appreciate the detailed view. I was also not particularly persuaded by the article, if that wasn’t clear before.

 

You need a franchise QB...you just need him to be married to a spouse that makes equal or greater then he does so that he doesnt feel like he needs to rob the team without a gun and mask.

 

truer words were never spoken!

 

What did it say about Watt's 31 million cap hit in 2022?

How many Superbowl winning teams have had a defensive player making over 30 million in one season?

 

Dang. That’s a huge hit!

 

I just remember Aikman's comments about the ref's actions to Minkah before the next play. Either way, doesn't matter. Those plays should be reviewable. The excuse that they can't review everything is crap, too. The video reviews should be about getting the calls right. The way I see it, if they aren't going to take advantage of all of the incredible camara work, then don't use it at all.

 

I thought before and still do that paying him the King's ransom was questionable. There's no doubt he's one of, if not the top defensive impact players in the game today. And I love watching him play. But I believe he'll be about out of gas before this team is competitive enough to be an annual threat to make noise in the playoffs. I don't hate the signing. I just don't love the hell out of it like others do. The other thing is, and it's rearing its head this season is that the guy can't stay on the field. People get defensive and say, "Well, that's not his fault." No, it isn't really anyone's fault unless an injury is the result of a dirty hit or block. Anyway, he can't help the team if he's on the sidelines or in the press box. I think the Steelers got bullied by Watt and I think they were afraid to tag him because of the Bell situation. I look at the money they are spending on him and think I'd rather see that money spent on two dependable starting pros somewhere else in the line-up. I honestly think too many people are in denial about how much of an infusion of talent this team needs.

 

I’m convinced the NFL LOVES officiating controversy and only helps their bottom line. Anything to keep us fans talking, bit€#ing, and moaning about everything NFL is the goal.

 

If you don't want Rodgers as your QB then you obviously don't want to win. The guy is one of the greatest QB's ever

 

Not sure if you watch hockey or not. In case you don't, the last few years they've started reviewing plays to see if the play was offside before a goal was scored. I'm telling you, it was the dumbest thing the NHL ever did, and if you go to any hockey forum, you'll see literally everyone complaining about it. It completely ruins the flow and pace of the game.

The last thing we want is for everything to be reviewed. Some things are better called at full speed. The current system is good enough, except for the fact that the refs flag every hit that looks violent, whether it's a head shot or not. But that comes from above I'm sure, they aren't doing it on their own.

 

Kicker? Really? That was your lame response?

 

i'd take rodgers or russell in a heartbeat.

 

By what standards. Stats. Stats that if I use don't count, but if used by others count. How many playoff games has He not even scored a Td in???
That's the greatest Qb ever???. It's cool You love Him, but He's been over Hyped by Fantasy lovers,and the media. Like Peyton M....was. They both are really great Qbs, but not the Football Gods the media made them out 2 be. The "One of the Greatest Qbs Ever"...does not keep $hitting the bed in the playoffs.
I know I know it's all Green Bays fault. Because We know how sucky a franchise Green Bay is.

 

I'm sure You would. Just like I heard this Year from others they'd take...Cam, Sam Darnold, T. Bridgewater, Baker and Lamar just 2 name a few in a minute over our Qb.
Well by My judge. Sure glad We didn't get any of those wishes.
Why Oh Why do people think if a Qb on a good team is not winning SB they automatically will Here????
You guys trying 2 tell Me Seahawks suck as a franchise....I clearly remember people complaining that we should model our team in Many ways after them(Seahawks)....from their Defense 2 how much better their coach was.
So now their Qb will Be better here???
Green Bay....Surely a Qb that's not winning SBs there at that sucky franchise will forsure win them Here.
Because We all know how terrible Green Bay is as a franchise. LoL
I really can't stop laughing at this.

 

I've argued for years, especially with Browns fans, that to build a real contender, you build a quality team that a good QB can step into and elevate to a championship caliber. There is a large portion of the football world who believes having a future HOF QB is the end all be all, and if you don't have one you'll never see a Lombardi. Even amongst owners and GMs. So they do nothing but endlessly chase the next QB, repeatedly wasting early draft picks, throwing their young QB into the fire and being shocked when he's completely roasted.

However, there is no question having a great QB enhances a franchises chances of 1. making a Super Bowl 2. winning a Super Bowl 3. making/winning multiple Super Bowls.

Brady and Kirk Cousins are not the same QB. That they have somewhat similar stats (this year) proves statistics do not tell the real story of what's going on.

 

Sometimes a an that has some different skill sets can help a team that has a lot in place already get over the hump. I don't think we need a total overhaul. We have good receivers, te, rb. We have a lot of good p pieces in place on defense. Trying to draft one is a deal shoot. With pieces already in place adding a proven commodity to that gives you a much better chance. You then use those draft picks to fill your needs.

 

Brady and Cousins may be close in terms of passer rating this year, but they're not that close in terms QBR which uses EPA (estimated points added) which is based on a combination of down, distance and yard line. So while passer rating doesn't distinguish between a five yard pass on first and ten vs third and four, EPA does. It's supposed to be a better measure of QB play given game context. Right now Brady leads the league in QBR at 67.6. Cousins is 10th at 54.9.

Since Cousins became a full starter in 2015 here are the QBRs for him and Brady. For context 65-70 QBR is considered Pro Bowl level performance and the number is supposed to correspond to winning percentage.

Year Brady Cousins
2015 68.4 67.8
2016 79.4 66.5
2017 70.6 56.0
2018 68.4 59.5
2019 55.7 60.4
2020 70.5 63.2


Brady has been better than Cousins every year except 2019, so it's really not surprising that Brady has seen more success.(duh) Now the article in the OP tries to establish there isn't much difference between the two statistically by using passer rating and that therefore Brady's outsized success compared to Cousins must be due to the teams he's been on. That interpretation is difficult to support IMO.

a) Brady has consistently outperformed expected winning % for 20 seasons across two franchises. At some point it can't just be luck or the teams around him. The common denominator is him.
b) in 2008, when he got hurt, Matt Cassell's QBR was 63.4 corresponding to 10.14 wins. The Pats won 11 and missed the playoffs that year. In 2020, Cam Newton's QBR was 47 corresponding to 7.5 wins. The Pats won 7. In short, in neither season did they significantly outperform their QB.
c) Kirk Cousins, in contrast to Brady, has in his career, underperformed his QBR in 6 of his 7 seasons as a starter. Across two different franchises. Once again when do you stop citing luck or the team? There's a common factor here, Kirk Cousins.

 

It’s only a comeback if you win. Otherwise, it’s just another loss.

Just a random thought while on the pot.

 

I believe ( not sure) that when they rate a Qb comeback it means they won.

 

One game out of 19.

 

I'm actually a hockey junky and I agree regarding offsides. A team could possess the puck for two plus minutes in the offensive zone or long enough for a line change, score and then have it taken away because someone is barely offsides. It cost TB a goal and momentum in the 2016 playoffs against the Penguins. Still hate the rule. Football for me is different because of the constant stoppages. Although, I agree that everything can't be reviewed, the targeting hits need to be. They do it in college ball, but the penalty there is steep because in addition to the penalty yards, the offending player is ejected.