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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by JPP, Nov 28, 2021.

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  1. Maddog78

    Maddog78 Well-Known Member

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    I do - Ben makes very few big time throws, many turnover worthy throws. That matches exactly what I've seen.
     
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  2. Blast Furnace

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    That chart really isnt an opinion though, there can be some variation on what constitutes turn over worthy plays, elite throws vs non elite throws, ect but otherwise I say it paints a pretty accurate picture. Just like the Next Gen graphs showing where Ben throws the ball. Those are factual things that show a declining limited Ben.
     
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  3. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    So what you are saying is you can throw 4 ints , and fumble the ball , but if the team wins the Qb is better. Ok.:thumbs_up:
     
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  4. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    So show the chart that shows Lamar not able 2 complete a pass down the sidelines 88% of the time past 10 yards from the pocket. I guess if all You want from a Qb is 2 throw down the middle of the field Lamar is the guy.
    People Lamar is not going 2 get better...the more times people face him the worse He gets. That's why everyone in our AFCN is making him look bad...because He is not a new thing 2 them. I said this 2 FootballAnalyst98 at the beginning of the year. Yes Teams that have not played Him, or that rely on Man coverage He looks good against, but in the Division, or teams that face Him all the time He will look way worse, and He has exactly that.
     
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  5. Maddog78

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    No, I'm not saying that. Lamar was terrible last game and they won in spite of him.

    I'd still take him over Ben on the whole, though,
     
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  6. S.T.D

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    Lamar has been terrible all year. The more teams face him the worse He gets. That's not a recipe for things getting better...only worse. Of course we will hear...like Cam,and Matt Ryan....Well he has a MVP. LoL all by the same people that say on here that regular season means nothing, but will talk about how great a MVP of the regular season is. Hahahaha.
    Also again....Glad You are not picking our next Qb
     
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  7. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    You go find the chart, it’s your point you are trying to make :lolol:

    I don’t care about Jackson or any other QB’s level of play, I care about Bens and sadly, it’s bad.
     
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  8. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Why??? Did You just not tell me a few weeks ago You would take Lamar over most , or maybe it was all the Qbs in the NFL. Who should I be comparing Ben with ....other than Qbs in His division...Nasa scientists....Astronauts????
    LoL
     
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  9. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    why not compare him to franchise quarterbacks with 15 years of exp?
     
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  10. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Are none in our Division. That's who I'm comparing Him 2. Just like I said before the season started. He (Ben)was the Best in the Division...outside of Burrows.
    Now I'd have 2 put Burrows 1st. Ben 2nd. Lamar 3rd, and Faker 4th.
     
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  11. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    so you’re hedging your bets
     
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  12. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. LoL
     
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  13. Maddog78

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    Show me on the doll where you touch yourself when dreaming about Ben.
     
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  14. S.T.D

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    LoL. Touche.:thumbs_up:
    Even if You're just using my own line against me.
     
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  15. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I would still take Jackson over Ben, everyone that is not a Ben homer would :lolol:

    This is your goto anytime someone criticizes Ben, that there is another QB playing bad, somewhere, on another planet, in another universe as if it means anything to the topic at hand.

    I actually thought that maybe even you would be down on Ben after last week but nope because Jackson threw 4 interceptions so no need to worry about Ben.
     
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  16. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Exactly :thumbs_up:
    Seriously. If our rest of the team wasn't playing so bad and we lost because of Him I would be, but He could have honestly thrown 3 Tds , and no picks , and We still would have got our A$$es handed 2 us.
     
    S.T.D, Nov 30, 2021
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