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Has Cheerleader Tomlin EVER been a "good" head coach? I say no ..

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Burgettstown Bob, Sep 28, 2021.

  1. SteelersFanCanada

    SteelersFanCanada Well-Known Member

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    Its not possible to point to a specific time when Tomlin was a good coach because all the loses are his fault and all the wins are because of someone else.

    I think the worst was when he forced Ben to throw 5 ints against the Jags. Any worthwhile coach would've let Ben know who was on his team and who wasn't.

    I personally believe Tomlin doesn't actually know anything about football. It's pretty obvious that Joshua Dobbs has been calling the shots the last few seasons.

    Do we know if Tomlin actually understands the game of football or is he just wearing sunglasses and listening to a podcast on the sidelines?

    We'd have atleast 3-4 more superbowls if some of the brilliant football minds of this thread were leading the team.


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  2. Roonatic

    Roonatic Well-Known Member

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    Someone has a lot of time in their basement.:facepalm:
     
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  3. SteelerGlenn

    SteelerGlenn

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    Post what ever you want, but don't be surprised when people clown on you.
    This happens alot, new guy shows up and wants to start "Tomlin sucks" threads like he just stumbled onto some new creative idea. Meanwhile the rest of have already debated this over and over. Heck we even have some vets around here who can't move on to the next subject.
    Maybe start a thread for only new people or people who have been living under a rock where you bash Tomlin nonstop.
     
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  4. DukeDukeDaDaDa

    DukeDukeDaDaDa Well-Known Member

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    I think we need a topic called things that Glemm says it's ok to talk about. Since being TSF supporter apparently means you think you run this place.
     
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  5. Roonatic

    Roonatic Well-Known Member

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    Glemm's doing fine. :thumbs_up:
     
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  6. Burgettstown Bob

    Burgettstown Bob Active Member

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    Got it. So, due to some lifeless individuals who have had a lot of free time to waste on this forum over the past decade plus, us new(er) folk are supposed to not be repetitive about $@1% for brains Tomlin and Noodle Ben sucking because you have been hearing fans say that for at least the past decade plus? Yeah .. that makes a lot of sense. How about when they both quit sucking for the same old s#@!, we'll quit talking about it then?

    Btw, it only appears to be you and 1 or other 2 Tomlin/Ben groupies who seem to take issue with this reality. Everyone else seems to agree. Imagine that. lol
     
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  7. DukeDukeDaDaDa

    DukeDukeDaDaDa Well-Known Member

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    Are you at his house? Lol
     
  8. Mike T

    Mike T Well-Known Member

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    Cause of the situation he walked into. Again see Barry switzer. Only difference is even Jerry jones was smart enough to realize that mediocrity isn't good enough in the NFL (and yes i hate giving Jerry Jones any credit). Tomlin is not a good coach. He hires terrible coaches and he fails to prepare his players and team and staff. His situational football is some of the worst in the NFL ever. Almost 20 years in and still can't time manage a game let alone win a challenge. Have yet to see him hold anybody accountable for anything. The closest we have seen was the really upset tomlin who was going to unleash hell (we all know how that went). The mans specialty is the secondary!! We have yet to produce squat for a secondary player under him, not a single one!! He is a coach that players love but that's not a good coach. Thats a coach that players (especially todays entitled divas) love cause they don't have to put the work in. I am guessing you choose to ignore all the drama there has been behind the scenes that started coming to light in the last few years.

    Dont worry Tomlin will be gone one day and he will get another head coaching gig that is true. Then there wont be black and gold colored glasses to blind anyone from the truth. Tomlin is nothing but one of the luckiest coat tail riders in the history of the NFL. And yes there was a time when i supported him and was blinded to all this by the "stats" you mentioned. The team won in spite of Tomlin not because of him!
     
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  9. KMM

    KMM Well-Known Member

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    That's a lot of excuses in trying to downplay each and every end result.

     
  10. Mike T

    Mike T Well-Known Member

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    Or some might call it a thought out approach to the things you listed and you simply came back with "im taking my ball and going home" lol
     
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  11. santeesteel

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    So, now YOU'RE the lifeless individual who has a lot of free time to waste on this forum?
     
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  12. Burgettstown Bob

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    Check it out ^^, everyone. Looks like I struck a nerve with Mr October 2011. Lol

    No man, seriously. No one is going to diss me and my boyfriend Glenn's Cheerleader Tomlin love. Grrrrrrrrr .. I'm tough. -- santitsteel
     
  13. santeesteel

    santeesteel

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    This almost made sense........almost
     
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  14. Burgettstown Bob

    Burgettstown Bob Active Member

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    If it doesn't make sense maybe it's because I'm talking too fast for you, Gramps. Louder, slower, or both? See below ..

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  15. KMM

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    Do you think George Seifert or Tom Flores weren't good coaches either?

    These are excuses in trying to somehow say a person with 15 years of sustained of success that has been topped by only one of his peers and equaled by maybe a handful is somehow unworthy or undeserving. I'm not even saying Tomlin's a great coach, nor am I saying he hasn't reached his sell by date here either and should go, but to deny he's at least a "good" coach? C'mon.

    When you have to write a TLDR tome to explain your "thought out" position, you're clearly having to try too hard.
     
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  16. Roonatic

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    "Any broke dick with a phone can create a let's hate Tomlin thread."


    The Book of Glemm
     
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  17. Jujubean

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    Since Cowhers players have retired has this team not been on a downward trajectory especially in the playoff? Now that Ben is toast how does this team look? Get used to it unless we draft the next Ben in April.
     
  18. santeesteel

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    Or maybe, just maybe none of your nonsense makes sense because it's already been spouted by dozens of others through the years. Come up with an original reason that Tomlin sucks. Like, maybe, Tomlin sucks because he sired an egghead named Bob from Burgettstown!
     
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  19. Rollers

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    The problem with discussing Tomlin is those that love him will defend him and those that hate him want him gone. There is no middle ground. The discussion always devolves into he's a horrible coach or he's a great coach. I think he's somewhere in between. After 14 years at the helm I think he's grown stale and needs to move on. He's a good coach. Not a great one. Noll was a great coach. Cowher was a good coach. Noll turned a perennial loser into a four time world champion. But he also had the luxury of drafting at the top of the draft for a few years. They had some great drafts to build the foundation for a great team. Neither Cowher nor Tomlin had that advantage. I believe because of that Tomlin has been exposed for who he is. He obviously cannot choose coaches very effectively. I don't believe the owner or the general manager meddles in his decisions as to who he can hire as coordinators. He is abyssal at that. When you are on the the 11 yard line and need yards for a first down you don't throw a pass 6 yards behind the line of scrimmage in order to make those 10 yards. The defenders are to close to the line of scrimmage and can recover very quickly. You don't tell the world "we fired every bullet we had". You just don't do that. This game was a horrible indication of the poor coaching that defines the Steelers at this time. I think it's time for Tomlin to go. I would love to see Eric Bienemy brought in to see what he could do. Maybe the requires a couple bad years where we draft higher and get more talent. I don't know. I don't hate Tomlin but I don't think he has anything left to share with this team that will turn this team around. Yes I know Tomlin doesn't center the ball over the head of the QB. I know he doesn't throw interceptions. I know he doesn't miss tackles. I know all that. But a coach works on those things and makes corrections. I just think it's time for him to move on. He's a hall of fame first ballot head coach. Time for him to go. Sorry if this makes anyone angry but it's just my opinion.
     
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  20. Burgettstown Bob

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    Can anyone else envision this ^ old timer's dentures slipping out as he one fingers his keyboard in anger? LOL Easy there, santit! I don't want you getting angry and throwing your wheelchair over a little online banter where you're already being owned miserably.

    On topic: You say "my nonsense doesn't make sense". Can you be specific about what doesn't make sense to you, pappy? I've already offered to break it down for you wherever that's needed. I simply asked if Cheerleader Tomlin has EVER been a good coach? I say no. What about that doesn't make sense to you? And if it truly doesn't make sense to you, maybe you and Mother Santit should discuss whether an extra medication may be necessary in your diet.
    Also, would you say that it's commonplace for you to become confused any time things have been repeatedly spouted by others? Just trying to gain a better understanding of any potential limitations here.
     
  21. DukeDukeDaDaDa

    DukeDukeDaDaDa Well-Known Member

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    A reading from the Book of Glemm...
     
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  22. Rollers

    Rollers Well-Known Member

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    Glad you think so little of us old guys
     
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  23. Disco1981

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    You'll get it...Santeesteel likes to Bully anybody who talks **** on his precious Popcorn...He has NEVER responded to ANY of my posts unless, it's anti Tomlin, Then he starts name calling and throwing hissy fits
     
  24. DukeDukeDaDaDa

    DukeDukeDaDaDa Well-Known Member

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    What it comes down to for me, is that even when Cowher's teams **** the bed, I had a good feeling that he would rectify it or somebody's head would roll. Well that was before TB came along. But regardless, I never have that feeling with Tomlin. I have no hope for this guy. The infrastructure is so broken right now.
     
  25. santeesteel

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    What doesn't make sense is, why you would think your insights are novel and ground breaking when they're , almost verbatim, what others having been saying for years. I also don't know what a santit, nor a mother santit is. You don't think Tomlin has ever been a good coach. I disagree. With what he had to work with 2 years ago, he was a damned good coach. I would agree that it's time for him to go but, not my circus, not my monkeys!
    BTW, if you ever owned anything, it would be miserably...........
     
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