Last losing season for each team

Wilson is not a HOF QB IMO , but either way he has not had a losing season as a starting QB.

Breese has had 2 HC's playing for the Saints and that team has always had a bizarre way of running things. The exception to the rule but that doesn't mean Payton sholdn't have been fired. They were all about racking up passing stats and failed miserably on defense. Payton is an over rated bad HC and a great OC. He's had tons of talent and 1 SB to show for it. He barely has more wins than losses during his career and the Saints are a crap organization. Not one Steeler fan would have accepted Payton's results over the last 15 years.

McCarthy was fired in GB for their failures , even though Rodgers had some health issues during his struggles. He had 2 seasons with a losing record - his first year as a starter and 2018 - and McCarthy was immediately fired...SO my point exactly.

Elway had 1 losing season in his entire career as a starter. (his Rookie season he started 10 games and he was terrible) I'd also confidently say Elway was an over rated QB. His first 10 seasons he had more INT's than TD's. I'm old enough to have watched Elway's career. The legend of Elway was much better than the reality of Elway. But no matter what you think of Elway they fired his coaches. Elway had 3 HC's during his career. So again thanks for making my point. HC's should not have losing seasons with HOF QB's.

Don't bull **** a bull ****ter.

 

Bree was brought in by S. Peyton was he not???
So that would be one coach my friend. Unless I'm remembering wrong.
Which has happened. LoL

 

Russell might be a HOFer, i think he holds the ball too much.


I can't be rational about Brees, he should get in on merit imo but if he doesn't who cares he went to Purdue.

Elway...
I grew up & was living in Indy when he told Irsay to fly a kite. Then he's getting smoked in the SB..repeatedly. Then he gets a few rings against the NFC which I don't have much respect for.

 

A defensive coach can coach up his defense force turnovers, hold the opposition to fewer than 40 points, and oh, I don't know, maybe find a way to stop Tim Christing Tebow.

 

Again, it's up to the players to commit turnovers.

It's up to players to perform. You know execute. Coaches can't go onto the field and perform for the players.

 

Why do coaches even need to show up on Sundays then?

Gameplanning and scheme are hugely important. Sitting back and tackling the catch vs. attacking can affect turnovers, for instance.

You have to put players in position to succeed.

 

Players need to execute the game plan.

You act like Steelers coaches didn't preach turnovers. Players created turnovers all year and suddenly forgot in the playoffs?

Games boil down to execution by the players. We can go round and round in circles on this but that fact remains. Everything looks bad when players don't perform. There isn't a coach that will disagree with what I said.

Matter of fact coaches say it all the time. "We didn't execute " Blocking, catching, tackling, penalties, turnover ect. Poor execution is what loses games most of the time.

 

So we are spoiled fans. What`s your point? LOL.

 

In 2017, the Ravens lead the league with 34 takeaways.
The next year, they only had 17 takeaways (22nd in the league).

I wouldn't think their coaches decided in 2018 to discourage their players from generating turnovers.

 

I believe they had a big turnover on D players that year

 

When the game plan calls for Robert Spillane to cover the #1 WR, he just needs to execute, right?

You know what else coaches say all the time? You play how you prepare. Last three playoff blowouts they showed a clear lack of preparation.

 

The opposition can create matchups. Especially when defenses play in zone defense. I don't know of any defense in the NFL that plays man coverage 100% of the time.

I've seen LBs used in coverage on WRs by other teams. Some of those matchups were created by offensive scheming. Maybe I pay attention more than you?

It's your opinion the team wasn't prepared. I choose to place my focus on EXECUTION.

I don't believe the players executed well. It's out there on the film. The key factor in the losses were TURNOVERS. The team was prepared well enough to fight back. But the turnovers and mistakes were to much to overcome for the team. Mistakes usually are difficult to overcome.

9 turnovers in the last 3 playoff appearances is not going to win many games.

More often than not turnovers change the dynamics of everything.

 

Fans can give praise for something Tomlin has done and still not be happy with another aspect. It’s a good thing to think objectively.

 

I tend to agree with you, but it’s hard to ignore the possibility that Tomlin’s teams seem to be underprepared and out coached at times. Couple that with the players apparent lake of focus and execution and it’s a recipe for a loss.

 

You are correct Madden lost to some great coaches. Remind me again which coach Tomlin lost to last year in the playoffs (I thought it was an empty chair that out coached him).

 

So Tomlin gets credit for their record but he is not responsible for how they play on the field? That sounds odd to me. Also what is a head coach responsible for? I will wait while you gather your thoughts.

 

LB's are used in coverage by other teams you are correct. However when its 20 yards down field the other teams have a safety blowing up the tight end or WR (giving support and possibly intercepting). This does not happen in Tomlins world the LB is one on one (sometimes 3 plays in a row like when we play the Patriots). Its not great coaching when the same play beats you three times in a row and you change nothing.

 

Good thing the title wasn't "winning record streak for every NFL team". Tomlin would be at 1 in a row (that's why he should be in the HOF).

 

No need to wait while I gather my thoughts. Tomlin deserves his share of credit and blame. It comes with the nature of his position.

Players are responsible for their own performances. They get paid a lot of money to perform.

Head coach is responsible for leadership, guidance, decision making, teaching, has a role in the direction of the the organization, helping the team win ect.

When the team fails to win consistently it will be time for a change at HC.

 

It will be obvious when Ben retires. The wheels will fall of quickly and don't point to his crap season without Ben (it was not a good season). Once Ben retires Tomlin will not have a winning season (at some point they will fire him). Who knows if its 2 seasons or 7 either way it will not be pretty. Hopefully he gets a chance somewhere else because he will truly get exposed. The only way he stays looking good/decent is to retire when Ben leaves. Tomlin is horrible plain and simple. He can't control his players and doesn't discipline them when they act up.

 

Most of what we have to go on in terms of preparation is the overall picture, correct?? A case could be made about preparation if the team stunk week in and week out.

Do you think the Chiefs were unprepared in the Superbowl or they simply didn't play well enough? They had 2 turnovers and had 11 penalties for 120 yards. Not going to win to many games with that stat line.

The Steelers will give themselves a chance to win in the post season if they stop giving the ball away.

 

Ding ding. Coaches can't have success without great players.

Your opinion about Tomlin just loss credibility since you believe, "Tomlin is horrible plain and simple."

 

I believe the Chiefs were out coached.