They're saying Tomlin is most overrated coach possible ever. Fact or Fiction?

Consistent as the Bills? Come on. The Bills are TBD. They have a QB and team on the rise.

I will give you the Chiefs but the Bills no. Reid is a good coach. Reid will probably end up in the HOF when he's finished coaching. But as good as Reid was/is he only won one Superbowl. 22 years as a HC with some pretty good teams and coaching staffs and one championship. That's how difficult it is to win one Superbowl.

Every team has question marks. Maybe you realize games boils down to the players that a good/great coach has?

Regardless of the question marks on the roster or whatever, games boil down to execution by the players. Coaches can't hide weaknesses/deficiencies for long. Sometimes injuries and luck have a say in the outcome of a season.

 

It’s hard, it’s really hard.

If someone throws a hanging curve ball down the middle, it’s hard to make yourself bunt. Just saying coach.

 

No

It’s slow. This is what we do.

 

Glemm has a customized Steelers jersey with the #1 and Tomlin on the back.

 

I want some clarification here. There are posts about Ben over and over that are are redundant. Am I not allowed to respond at all?

 

That’s it? Is that the best you can do?

Just asking for Jujubean

 

These guys are clowns.

 

So that's all you took away from my post? The point was that Tomlin has sucked balls in the postseason for the past 4 years. The same performance (0-2 and missing playoffs for 2 out of 4 years) got Andy Reid fired in Philly. I don't give a rats ass if you think the jags were good or not. Steelers were 13-3 with a first round bye and were favored to win at home. But, as usual, Tomlin coached squads are not prepared and come in acting like it will be a cakewalk.

 

Sit here pounding your chest acting like Superfan #1. So oblivious to the team and issues we have you have 0 credibility in my eyes. Keep sticking your head in the sand Glenn it’s a good look for you.

 

It doesn’t matter what other teams do we just have to do things the Steelers way don’t you know? I mean we have won 3 playoff games in 10 years the league better respect us.

 

If you notice, I never claimed that your entire comment was wrong because of one part of your post.
I just commented on the one part of your post that I think you got wrong.

Obviously, we have different mindsets.
For the 2005 season playoffs, I'd say that the top 3 AFC seeds and the top-seeded NFC team lost to a team that won the Super Bowl.
You might say that those four teams had embarrassing losses to a #6 seed.

 

I'm sure the Colts were embarrassed, especially given how they kicked the crap out of the Steelers during the regular season. The Bengals were still angry about the Palmer injury.

 

Perhaps. I would argue that the steelers team talent on the field that day (and playing at home) was far superior to the competition of the jags. Their defense was obviously very stout, yet the steelers scored 45 points against one of the best D's in the league. But the steelers D couldn't stop a mediocre (at best) jags O who only mustered 10 points against the Bills the week prior. All I'm saying is that losing to teams they should beat has become a hallmark of Tomlin coached squads for the past 15 years. It isn't new and it is beyond stale and tired.

Edit: I'm not sure what kind of red herring BS you're tossing out there. The Steelers lost to an inferior jags team in div round in 2017 so what does that have to do with 2005? And how in the hell did 4 teams win the super bowl that year?

 

God, I hate to be the one to keep this thread going, but to answer your question:
The Steelers beat the Bengals (#3 seed), the Colts (#1 seed), and the Broncos (#2 seed) (the top three seeds in the AFC), and the Seahawks, the #1 seed in the NFC.

 

The 2005 Steelers and 2010 Packers were both 6th seeds, but those were not the 6th best teams in their conference those years when the playoffs started. Regular season injuries derailed teams that were probably on their way to 1 or 2 seeds.

 

Man I love internet fights! No one wins no one loses and no one gets hurt. Couldn't be any better

 

OK, I get it now. Sorry just a little thick-headed. But what the hell does any of that have to do with the Steelers getting beeyotch slapped by the jagoffs in 2017?

 

The Jags were not an "inferior" team. Not sure how you can believe that the Jags were inferior after watching the Steelers lose to that Jags team twice?

 

I think it's the fact that they only won 10 games, barely beat Buff 10-3 the week before, and Bortles was a turd.

The fact that the Steelers overlooked them twice was a fireable offense, IMO.

 

IMO. It's matchups. Like in most sports, and for sure combat sports.
Hell really any sports.
What our team does well , Offensively, and Defensively doesn't always translate well 2 other teams .
For example: Let's use the Ravens, and L. Jackson.
We can play a style of D that Gives him fits. Whereas other teams with different styles have problems with him.
Some will say because we face him all the time.
Wrong . We have only played him 2 times . Yet they are some of his worst games.
Its styles that make the fight my friend.

 

Only won 10 games? It's not easy to win 10 games in the NFL.

That Jags team made the playoffs. What ever happened vs other teams was irrelevant. Every team and game presents different challenges and factors.

One of the huge factors was that the Steelers turned the ball over 7 times (5 in regular season and 2 in the post season) vs the Jags in the losses.

Bortles wasn't a turd in the 2017 season. He made some plays and didn't make crucial mistakes vs the Steelers. Sometimes people need to learn the differences between players that had good games/seasons vs how well players performed over the course of their careers.

Bortles probably played better vs the Pats in the AFCCG than he did the Steelers. The Jags were leading by 10 points vs the Pats in the 4th QT of the AFCCG before Brady worked his magic.

Perception isn't always reality.
2017:
Jags scored 417 points (5th in the league). Steelers scored 407 points (8th in the league).
Jags gave up 268 points (2nd in the league). Steelers gave up 308 points (7th in the league).

I wish people would stop this narrative that the Steelers were superior to the Jags when some of the FACTS show otherwise. Games are not won on paper or based on fans perceptions.

 

The Jags scored 8 return TDs that year (PR + D), the Steelers had 1, so the offensive points scored was 400 for Pitt, 361 for Jax.

Bortles was a glorified game manager at best. Not saying they stunk, and 10 games is good, but the Steelers won 13 and got cheated out of 14 because Jesse James scored.