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Adrian Klemm

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, Feb 2, 2021.

  1. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    First job is to give Klemm some better talent to work with :shrug:.
     
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  2. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    This is the draft to do it but they better stop run blocking out of a 2 pt stance or it won’t matter much.
     
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  3. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I will try and find it again. Some times I find things when I'm down the Rabbit hole, and can never find again
     
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  5. Seven4Steel

    Seven4Steel Well-Known Member

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    They also say good things about Tomlin, and you see where that's got us. :hehehe:
     
  6. Jball

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    So, you're attributing the success of Dotson to Klemm and not Sarrett? To use your analogy, so you think Klemm was teaching Dotson stuff that Sarrett didn't approve of? Secretly he was building his protege? Because he knew that left to Sarrett, he would suck as bad as the rest? You can't blame the bad play on Sarrett, and the good on Klemm.

    I'm sure that Klemm was bringing his own philosophy to the table. I'm sure he influenced Sarrett and likewise. He's an assistant coach, not a donkey. He's there to bring his "expertise" as well. Of course Sarrett is going to quell any conflicting philosophy.

    The point is, the OL was terrible. The point is, this whole organization needs a shake-up. The OL was a glaring problem that ownership seemed not too happy with. Now, Klemm may be a genius and do a great job. And btw, I never said anything bad about Klemm. Not one thing. I'm saying that if you want your weakness to become a stregnth, and want to turn the ship 180, maybe going with a guy who was already here and influencing these guys during the bad play may not be the most optimal answer to the problem. Maybe you go with a guy with a fresh perspective and energy. I don't think that's "flawed" thinking. Unless any thinking other than yours is "flawed"? lol J/k man.
     
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  7. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Some people can teach, have a better knack for conveying things. Munch is widely considered the best line coach in the league, why wasn’t Sarrett able to have the same success after working with Munch? People aren’t robots, everyone is different and some are better at things than others.

    I mean, by that logic, every time a coach is fired they should clean house since they all most be as awful as the person who got fired. Come on, man.

    I’m also going to put a lot more stock in what someone like Trai says than message board folks, sorry ;)
     
  8. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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  9. Jball

    Jball Well-Known Member

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    I never said Klemm can't/won't work out. I hope he does. But, If I want to optimize(which is the key word here) my chances of success, I'm probably not going to hire a guy who's already a major contributor to a part of my team that failed horribly.There's a reason that there is a commonly used term like "a clean slate." It's a way to wipe away all of that which attributed to the mess, and start fresh. In the context to which we're speaking, it seems that you believe that Klemm had zero effect on the lack of efficiency of the OL. I'm saying, how do we know that? He is working directly with these guys on a daily basis. Again, I'm not saying he did, but you're demonstrably saying that he didn't by calling my argument flawed. To use your analogy again, had Munch left and the OL played just as well, would you say "Well, after all, those guys were taught by the great Munch."? Or would you think, "Maybe we gave Munch too much credit? Perhaps Sarrett was a valuable contributor to the OL success?" Maybe, "Clearly Sarrett was the mastermind the whole time."? Or "Munch took that young, bright coach, and really mentored him into a great coach in his own right."? Obviously, it would probably be a little of everything. But considering how bad the OL was, nobody comes out of this looking good. Nor should they. Again, not saying Klemm won't/can't be good. Just saying that if I'm looking to completely overhaul my OL's play/"identity", I'm going to optimize my chances of getting the right guy by getting a guy who definitely wasn't a contributing factor to the current state of play. And, perhaps just as important, a guy that brings a whole new perspective. If this team were to regress to the point where they actually let Tomlin go, you wouldn't be the slightest bit disappointed if they immediately promoted Butler to HC? Not for one second would you have wished to start fresh with a new HC? A guy with a fresh perspective and not part of the same old system that has been failing? Would you be flawed for wishing that? No, you wouldn't be. When you fire the head coach it's because the system just isn't working anymore. You need a new start. The OL is a microcosm of this.
     
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  10. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Klemms job was to work with the rookies, he doesn’t work with the starters. That’s why Trai is citing his job with Dotson as a positive in his abilities. It’s not the be all end all but it’s at least something to go on.

    I would say that Sarrets lack of success is clear proof that one coach has nothing to do with another coaches ability to get the most out of players.
     

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