Do you want Ben as our starting QB in 2021?

I hate to do it ,but if Ben does come back I am betting we finish last in the division .. To much tape on his dink and dunk and money is money ...I hope Vegas has a parlay wins over and under and place finished and over under rushing yards I put a 100 on each ...Take the negative on all ..A 3 way parlay should have some good juice..

 

Looks like Ben is coming back. If Haskins pans out or if we sign a slash and dash guy, the team should have two set of plays. Mix it up like the Saints do with Brees, Hill and Winston. Keep the defense guessing and extend Ben's health.

 

Nah bens knee heals over the offseason and he plays well again in the beginning. Dwindles towards the end and same result lol

 

Not 2 be a D!(k , but that worked really well 4 the Saints. They are at home watching the SB just like us, and not sure their record was any better.

 

I'll take that bet about finishing last in the AFCN. We either come in 1st or 2nd.

 

The Steelers only dress 2 QBs on gameday.

 

A restructure is not a discount.

If he takes a real pay cut I’ll be very impressed, I won’t hold my breath however

 

I'm not against shotgun, but I'm against not being able to run the ball in the shotgun. This is an area greatly missed by the departure of Le'veon.

If they can run they won't have to pass 50+ per game

 

You may be right, I just see DC'S playing press zero or cover 1 once it was exposed that Ben could not throw the deep ball we saw a lot of that..This is why we finished the way we finished ... We had a lot of luck and Ben had not been exposed in those first 11 games... Teams will dare him to throw deep starting game 1 the dunk and dunk will get picked and returned for TD'S...If Ben starts the entire seson he will set the record for scoring for other Teams Defenses...I probably Parlay that as well..I set that number at 7 pick sixes with 2 in one of the games...

 

Blah blag blah. About running the shotgun. The Chiefs, Ravens, and Houston ran the shotgun more than we did.

 

I still don't know if saying Ben can't throw down field is true.

A. He might have been hurt
B. The 3 interior linemen positions were ravaged my injuries or Covid this year...Game plan could have dictated a lot.

 

We’ll see. Bouchette stated that he is willing to restructure his deal. “I don’t care about my pay” could just as easily mean “I just want to play ball and let the agents and team sort out the contract stuff”. I’ll be stunned if he surrenders one cent of that $19m he is set to earn.

 

How is he losing money? A restructure means he gets what is likely a multi year extension, and gets the full $19m 2021 salary upfront as a signing bonus. That kicks part of the cap charge out to the future, it then gets fully amortised as dead cap when he is cut / retires. It’s basically an accounting trick and Ben doesn’t lose a cent by doing it. It will of course limit the teams spending capacity in the year he retires.

A discount / pay cut means he plays for less money to help the team. I’m not trying to be pedantic, I just think it’s a pretty significant point of difference.

If Ben does the team a solid and agrees to a genuine pay reduction and plays for a team friendly salary in 2021 then I’ll be the first to commend him but nobody should be giving him a pat on the back for a restructure. Bouchette knows this better than anybody and I expect there is a hint of propaganda in that tweet. There are a lot of fans that don’t want Ben back and they may be trying to soften the mood by making out that the cap issue is not such a big problem.

 

Pay him about 10 Million and then 4 Mil for each playoff win and 8 Mil for SB appearance he gets 12 Mil if he wins..Sounds fair to me...

 

We’ll see how it plays out. That’s some very soft language from AR2, again playing the media by appearing to take a tough stance but leaving the door open for the extension / restructure option that pays Ben in full. I have no doubt that’s how it’ll go, perhaps they will meet in the middle and do a bit of both.

In my last post I was mainly disputing the fact that you said I was getting caught up in semantics, there is a very big difference between a restructure and a pay cut, it could mean the difference between keeping a good young player around and letting them go down the road.

 

Well they did go further than us. Let's admit it Ben is coming back. Unless the staff gets real creative, we will see this sad story play out again next year. Except the Steelers will be home watching the playoffs.