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What if Ben doesn't recover fully.

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Kreighoff, Dec 22, 2019.

  1. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Mortensen has been known to be wrong before, so I will wait and see if this is true.
     
  2. JAD

    JAD Well-Known Member

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    Mortensen also said people have said that Ben would of been better off with Tommy John surgery than what he did have. No one knows for sure until he starts throwing again.
     
  3. steelers5859

    steelers5859 Well-Known Member

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    Trio of running backs? You might get 3 games out of Connor. Snell is suspect and slow. Samuels is no more than a receiver.
     
  4. The Glory Days

    The Glory Days Well-Known Member

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    Conner needs to move on to another profession before he breaks something he really needs.

    The trio I spoke of is Snell/Sam/Whyte. You are overly critical of those backs since they haven't been running behind a competent line this season.
     
  5. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

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    That’s stupid during those times ravens were rebuilding we were super bowl contending.

    lol
     
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  6. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    If Ben can't go next season, then we have to get a stop gap QB until the 2021 draft. Case Keenum, Chase Daniel, even Dalton or Ryan Fitzpatrick for a one year deal.
    With our defense all we need is a QB that can muster 17 or 20 points a game to be competitive.
     
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  7. steelers5859

    steelers5859 Well-Known Member

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    well, all I can go on is what I’ve seen this season. The oline does have its issues and finally fell off the cliff that old quarterbacks do.
     
  8. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Beat me to it. So many people are writing Ben off as done based on nothing but their own personal non-informed medical opinions. Are those folks all orthopedic surgeons? Are they all BEN’s orthopedic surgeons? I’m guessing no. On the weight issue - in my mid 40’s I lost 50 lbs. and got into amazing physical condition. Better condition than I was in when I ran 60 miles per week in my early 20’s. And I’m no pro athlete. There’s no barrier preventing Ben from getting into better shape by next season. In fact, I think the fact that he’ll need to throw to rehab may actually help him. He’ll actually have to throw the football in the offseason, which is something he normally doesn’t do.
     
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  9. Jujubean

    Jujubean Well-Known Member

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    Was Reported Ben has most likely played his last snap in the NFL.

    I am officially depressed
     
  10. SteelersForLife8810

    SteelersForLife8810 Well-Known Member

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    It certainly seems like it...I mean look at him on the sidelines...he's the poster child for being a washed up old-timer
     
  11. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Interesting. There’s a brand new report on NBC/PFT that the Steelers are optimistic about his return. Per Mortensen, he is not cleared to throw yet, but is “tracking better” whatever that means.

    Edit - there’s a new article on Steelers Depot where Mortensen backtracks on his earlier report about Ben having doubts. It says that Ben plans to play in 2020 and beyond.
     
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  12. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Ben is going to be 38, coming off an injury and doesn't take care of himself. Is it really hard to believe he may not make it back and if he does, won't play at a high level?

    Hope that's not the case but they better have been scouting QB's heavily this year. They need to draft one if it's there.
     
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  13. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    if they fix the line knox and that in turn helps the run game which will help the passing game along with a cleaner pocket I still think we have a kid in mason that can win games. Paxton and Duck are also capable after another camp. That kid is a rookie we have to remember. They are all young with talent so putting them in a scenario to succeed with some good blocking would go a long way. Same as I feel about these receivers. We are very young at skill positions and old on both lines. This is not near the team Ben had when he started and a lot of the numbers are comparable. Ben will get killed behind this line next year.:cool:
     
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  14. defva

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    Ben will be fine. Football is in him. It look like he swallowed about 20 of them... and is constipated
     
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  15. Steel Hog

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    This goes to show you believe nothing in the media. They throw crap out there to cause an effect and then recant later after everyone gets riled up for nothing. Click bait artists.
     
  16. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    It’s the product of a media mentality of needing to get the big scoop first. It’s amazing how much is reported inaccurately because one or another media outlet wants to be the one that broke the story. From what I can see, they’re all guilty of that.
     
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  17. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    “Hey Ben, are you expecting twins or triplets?”
     
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  18. SteelerNole

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    Man, we have some pessimistic, sky is falling
    What kind of shape are you in? Probably round, but round is a shape.
     
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  19. steel machine

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    IMO Ben is done but I have no idea for sure. One thing we all can agree on is that big old lump we see on the sidelines will not be half as mobile as he once was.

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  20. FootballAnalyst98

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    They didn't even really completely rebuild. They retooled more so and got lucky that lamar fell into their hands at the end of the 1st rd.
     
  21. Steelerway8511

    Steelerway8511 Well-Known Member

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    Listen, we have all watch BB play through injuries of varying degree, and give it his all when other Qbs around the league would have sat out. BB is extremely competitive and strong as well. I, personally, think Ben will be back solely based upon those two traits. Now, will he be the Ben of old? I don't know but one thing is for certain, he isn't going out like this.
     
  22. jeh1856

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    Agreed. I’m just putting the over under on how many games he plays at 1 1/2 before he is permanently disabled.
     
  23. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    So here is a dilemma:

    Ben historically has played little in the preseason and plays horribly in the first two games. He’s usually lousy after a bye week alone. If he sits out a whole year he will be way worse.

    Sooo....

    1) Do you play him a lot in preseason to get him up to speed, if he can, or at least find out if he can’t? But you take a chance on injury and wear.

    2) You save him in preseason, and take a chance on what we had this year?
     
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  24. MeanJoeBlue

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    You mean like the Bears did with Jay Cutler, a few years back?
    Even FA isn't a sure thing, and is more expensive against the salary cap than a rookie QB.

    That's just it: you don't know that. Or at least, it isn't a certainty.
    I realize Brady (6th round) is a once-in-a-generation sort of thing, but you can still hope to find a Russell Wilson (3rd round) or even a Tony Romo (decent enough, especially for an undrafted player). Or maybe a Kurt Warner (undrafted, took 7 years to find success).
     
  25. KMM

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    I wrote it up in the tanking thread, but only two SB starting QBs weren't drafted by their team in the last ten SBs. Peyton with Denver and Brees with New Orleans. That's it.
     
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