Mason era should be over

Well who really is ready in the 2nd game of their 2nd season sitting behind a HOF QB? I have started coming down on Mason but his play isn't the only thing bad. I mean injuries are a big key and Fitch stinks.

 

I can easily accept imperfection with a guy in MR's position as you point out hell, I remember watching Bradshaw in his first couple years and it was exasperating. But what I can't get beyond, for me, is the exact same repeated unforced errors in every game. Bradshaw would make risky play calls or try to throw a ball into a tiny window and have it intercepted, MR throws from his back foot and behind receivers even when there is little or no pressure?

 

The OP had 20 “disagrees”, but it’s now only 19. He must have had a convert.

 

I think what has gone relatively unnoticed or being given enough attention is that for some reason our brilliant OC decided it was in our best interest to let MR throw the ball 44 times. How were Ben’s performances throwing the ball that many times with much better weapons? A one score game for most of the game and he had 44 attempts? Add in the fact we lost two of our WRs along the way. Yes we lost Conner but Samuels was still available and has proven capable when called upon. No denying MR can play better but we are back to not putting our players in a position to succeed again, just on the offensive side now. Terrible game planning and play calling. Terrible OL play. Weapons dropping like flies. The deck is totally stacked against MR.

 

Well we have 10 days till we have to play the Bungals maybe the game planning will be better...........I am gonna say no as Fitch stinks.

 

Not trying to beat a dead horse here, but I think the best comparison happened last night. Phillip Rivers threw 4 pics and the last one solidified the loss. But after 3 picks, the chargers were still within one score of tying and in the red zone with time to spare. Even with 4 picks, Rivers was successful enough with the other passes to nearly match Mahomes and the Chiefs.

I can't say that MR would have been as successful. Actually, no one can. Because he hasn't had a game this season where his performance would sustain 4 picks.

 

It’s speculation on either side. The only comparison that can be relatively fair is MR played better than Dobbs when he had to relieve Ben in the Seattle game as opposed to Dobbs second half against Oakland last year. About the same experience for each at the time. MR also clearly outplayed Dobbs in the PS with a year less experience against relatively the same competition. There’s no telling how Dobbs would be playing 7 games in. It’s more likely he would suffer the same fate as MR under the same circumstances.

MR wasn’t losing us games up until Thursday and having him attempt 44 passes on a short week ,on the road is beyond asinine. What I think is being missed besides MRs draft stock and the fact he outperformed Dobbs in the PS is teams are more than ever keeping QBs as backups that provide the more seamless transitions between QBs should one go down. They don’t want to have to revamp game plans to suit a different style of QB. MR is a pocket passer like Ben so it’s a easier transition.

 

Yeah I guess you're right. At the risk of violating MB rules, I'll just say that I'm not a fan of being forced to pay for a service that I dont want or need and can do myself.

 

I agree like I said before in this thread however like I said I am not sure all the blame can be put on him.

 

I get what you're saying. It's a convenience and, compared to CA. the price is a bargain!
I worked at a full service gas station when I was younger and I miss that level of service. In OR, all they do is pump your gas for you, you still have to clean your own windows, check oil, tires, etc.

 

Some of you guys are serious master-debaters and really need to get out in public a little more often because your keyboard skills are overtaking your social skills.

 

Some of us have been married for a long time. We have to be master-debaters

 

……...and the tires and brake fluid! We had a lot of older customers who LOVED to make you check everything!

 

Somebody was probably pulling a “Fake Disagree “

 

But did he have a bofa?

 

There was a RB Sunday who had 0 yards on 6 carries with 1 TD. Our RB's were almost that good against the browns, except they had no TD.

 

Neither was Dobbs, who sucked the one time he was called upon for more than a single play last season and then lost the No. 2 job to Rudolph. Neither guy was a good option for this season, but Rudolph clearly demonstrated that he was the better option. He did that this preseason while getting just as much work against starters and as much work against future grocery baggers as Dobbs.

 

How dare you bring facts into this discussion!

 

The fair comparison is preseason, in which Rudolph outplayed Dobbs by a significant margin and took the No. 2 job from him. There is no evidence to support the idea that Dobbs could be a successful starter.

People are overreacting to Rudolph's stinker against the Browns, a game in which the Steelers couldn't run the ball, failed to protect the quarterback and lost their top two receivers to concussions. Once Conner left the game, they really didn't have much choice but to throw the ball even though it was desperation move to be putting the ball in the air so much under those circumstances.

 

I’m kind of weird about my memory for numbers. Actually, I’m just kind of weird.