Mason era should be over

Ahhh. I don’t mind. I like to get in and out at the grocery store. Actually I think Oregon made it ok now but NJ has that law. I guess I’ve broken the law a few times after all. I don’t always wait for them when they have a bunch if cars.

 

You can pump your own in some areas in OR. now. I kind of liked the law. We have family in southern OR and, if not for "make work" laws like this , some of those people would be panhandling in the Walmart parking lot. Or cooking meth!

 

They agreed to the trade, so they must have thought it was worth taking. The evidence is on my side there.

You absolutely compared the two. You insisted Dobbs would be doing better even though when they were in an even competition this preseason, Rudolph beat Dobbs out and it wasn't even close.

You brought up Dobbs not being as inaccurate as Rudolph. That is absolutely comparing the two. Unless you are basing that on two quarters against the Raiders, in which Dobbs sucked, you were comparing preseason Dobbs to regular season Rudolph. To use your type of terminology, that is .

It is not clear at all that they made a mistake in trading Dobbs. Rudolph beat him out. They didn't have to trade Dobbs to address the tight end spot. If they thought Dobbs had any chance of being their long-term quarterback, he would still be a Steeler.

 

Before we spiral into foolishness again, here is the post I quoted.

The first statement does not fit the facts. It suggests that Rudolph didn't earn the No. 2 job this preseason, which is clearly false. Rudolph beat Dobbs out for the second-string job in the preseason.

The second statement has no basis in fact. We haven't seen much of Dobbs in regular-season games and what we did see was a terrible performance in a loss.

 

Here is the part where you compared the accuracy of Rudolph and Dobbs. The only way you could possibly make this claim is to compare preseason Dobbs to regular-season Rudolph, which is .

When you look at both this preseason, Rudolph was clearly more accurate. It is tougher to keep that up in the regular season. I assume we agree on that much.

 

Please tell me what I misrepresented in your post. The simple truth is I did no such thing. If you wish to drop out of the discussion at this point, you are welcome to do so, but you haven't backed up your claims here at all.

 

There is no spin to it. You compared the accuracy of the two quarterbacks. You claimed that Dobbs wasn't as inaccurate as Rudolph. During this preseason, Rudolph was more accurate than Dobbs. When did we see this version of Dobbs who is more accurate than Rudolph in the regular season?

 

Please note that I'm not the one making this personal. You are. I'm discussing the topic while you are taking shots at me.

There is nothing dishonest in my posts. Both Rudolph and Dobbs played against starters and scrubs in the preseason.

You claimed in a post that Dobbs has not been as inaccurate as Rudolph, then you said you hadn't compared the two. That was a comparison of the two, one that is unfair and inaccurate because most of what we've seen from Dobbs was in the preseason while we are seeing Rudolph in regular-season games. Is it not easier to be accurate in the preseason?

 

Didn't Mason?

 

You claimed that I have a disease. You said I wasn't worth debating with. You made a comment about what gives me a woody. You falsely claimed that I twisted your words. Yet I'm the one looking for a fight? If you say so.

For the second time, I will ask you what words of yours I misrepresented. The only thing I can figure is that you posted that you don't remember Dobbs being as inaccurate as what we are seeing from Rudolph. To me, that is a comparison of the two, one that seems to compare Dobbs in the preseason to Rudolph in the regular season. Perhaps you don't think it is fair to characterize what you wrote as a comparison?

Also, both Rudolph and Dobbs started and came off the bench during the preseason. Rudolph started the second preseason game. Because it was preseason, both got much of their work in against second and third-string opposition.

 

Dobbs started week 1 & 4, MR started the 2nd weeks and Ben started the 3rd week....which MR came in. No starters play week 4 so I will say MR played vs just as many starters as Dobbs if not more. Also I will say that mean Dobbs played vs more baggage boys than Dobbs.........Either way don't really matter much since Dobbs is gone and MR is here.

 

Able to play for the Steelers at QB???????

 

Sorry, more of a defensive guy. Not much of a arm anymore ,shoulder is shot. Got real good hands though...

 

Maybe you can just hand it off............nevermind

 

People are acting as if Mason Rudolph has transformed into Nathan Peterman. Not even close. For that matter, I took the liberty of looking up some NFL Games on QBs that have thrown 4 or more INTs with far more starting experience. The most notable ones are down below;



Brett Farve: 6 INTs against the then St. Louis Rams in 2002.


Peyton Manning: 6 INTs against the then San Diego Chargers in 2007.



Drew Brees: 5 INTs against the Atlanta Falcons in 2012. Mind you this is the season after the Saints Offensive record setting 2011 season.



Russel Wilson: 5 INTs against Green Bay in 2016.



Kurt Warner: 5 INT games twice in his career. Once against Seattle in 2007 and another against Carolina in 2009.



Most notably of course;



Tom Brady: 4 INTs against the Buffalo Bills in 2011.




Again, I am by no means dismissing Mason's performance. It was not very good. That however, is not the point of emphasis from those aforementioned QBs. The main point is that even the great ones have bad games. It happens. Some like Kurt Warner have it happen to them more than once.



Never mind the greats though. Be happy Mason did not perform his best Nathan Peterman impression. Nathan threw 5 INTs in one half!!