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Josh Gordon released off IR

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by uncblue012, Oct 31, 2019.

  1. groutbrook

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    Moncrief gonna get HOT, I can feel it in my bones.:emperor::guitarplayer::hardrock:
     
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  2. STEELWINDS

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    Yeah I am torn about this potential move Glenn.

    Like I stated, I do weigh morals and values when I selected my life-long teams (Steelers, Pirates, Penguins). As I also stated, I think the Steelers are the best team in the league for handling things in-house instead of playing the "Oh we will let the process play itself out card".

    As I stated in another post, I remember when Tomlin suspended Santonio Holmes for the Giants regular season game of the year when we later went on to win Super Bowl XLIII. It was for something he got arrested for that week, (Weed I think or reckless endangerment.) The Steeler organization did not wait for "Due Process" to play itself out like so many other teams do. They took the bull by the horns and said right now the best thing you can do is support your team from the "sideline".

    In the end, he made what I consider one of the greatest catches of all-time to help us win the championship. Funny, how that all worked out. I am not saying the Steelers are perfect in every disciplinary situation but to me they are the best when it comes to handling things in-house.

    Given all of that, I would be leaning towards giving Gordon a shot with a very, very short leash. We really do need a #3 receiver and right now Washington, nor anyone else, is fulfilling that role. STEELWINDS
     
  3. SteelerGlenn

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    Thanks for the info.
     
  4. SteelerGlenn

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    He was claimed by Seattle so it’s irrelevant now.
     
  5. STEELWINDS

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    Thanks for the update Glenn.

    Take care. STEELWINDS
     
  6. SteelerGlenn

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    After the nonsense we put up with Bell and Bryant I’m not surprised they passed on him at all. I’m surprised you were on board with signing this guy. I thought you were on record as saying the Steelers were only targeting high character guys moving forward.
    im not trying to call you out at all just trying to understand why you would approve of this.
     
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  7. groutbrook

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    That Holmes situation is a good example of the front office being on top of things, but times have changed.
    'Letting the process play itself out' is exactly what they did in the Bell and AB situations, and more recently the Chickillo situation.
     
  8. Blast Furnace

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    I addressed this already in this thread. He's a team player and all around good guy who just goes out and does whats asked of him.

    Aside from an addiction, Gordon is nothing like Bryant.

    There was a ton of upside in this move with very little downside.

    He's got demons, doesn't make him a bad guy. I don't equate him to Bell and AB.
     
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  9. SteelerGlenn

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    IMO he has character issues. I’m guessing that’s why the Steelers passed.
     
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  10. Blast Furnace

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    Nothing I have ever read on him indicates that.

    He's either having trouble staying clean or the injuries are more than they appear.
     
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  11. defva

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    Seahawks picked him up. Beside, he won't last long there either. He is Bryant (weed head), Brown (out of control), Bell (still wanted by several teams). He's more like Ricky Williams ... who chose weed over his career. Came back, just to get enough money to support his weed habit
     
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  12. BURGH43STEL

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    How is Gorden going to make it work with any other teams if he couldn't make it work with the Pats?

    Hard for me to believe that so many were for signing him. It's likely Gordon wouldn't had been with the Steelers long term. The Steelers were not looking for a quick fix at WR with the QB and WRs they have. I think it's better for the Steelers young QB and WRs to develop together.
     
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  13. NY STEELERFAN

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    I am glad he isn't here and we passed on him that gives me hope that the "Steeler Way" still means something. I know there are a lot of log time fans on this board and they know that for years the Steelers have done the right thing. I know this kid has a ton of talent but man when a guy get suspended 5-6 times he has a problem, you all want that around our young guys? I mean if he gets suspended that many times that should tell ya how mush he must be going it.

    I would love to go back and look at the MB and Bell threads from years ago to see the reaction by some and then compare it to the opinions right now. Tee time at 10 so I don't have time but maybe tonight I can check it out. Either way he isn't coming here and honestly I know I am a JW "lover" but if Mason gets going I am pretty confident in Juju, DJ, JW, VW, Samuels and Conner when he comes back. jmo
     
  14. SDOT

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    Yeah, that kind of went out the window a few days before.
     
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  15. cajunyankee

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    Well, it’s a moot point now that he’s signed by Seattle but I didn’t want him. While your points are true we must remember Roster spots are limited and valuable and I’d much rather sign a RB..... since our group is hurting and limited. I’m all for cutting Moncrief and even signing a different WR. Isn’t Rodgers still available? He isn’t a game changer BUT he is a Chain Mover.

    Cajun
     
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  16. Blast Furnace

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    If they don't cut Moncrief before week 10, then that will make more sense passing over Gordon, maybe they feel he still has long term value that hasn't been met yet because of his injury and downgrade at QB.

    Otherwise, I just can't see not taking a chance on Gordon, low risk/high reward. It's one thing for production to drop going from Ben to Mason, it's quite another to be non existent. Only 2 receivers on this team are doing anything, thats not a recipe for success.

    Jordan Matthews is (or was) on waivers too, so maybe the Steelers are happy with what they have.
     
  17. steelersrule6

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    Gordon is a unreliable pothead, there are reports he was late to meetings, this isn't 2013 Gordon :shrug:.
     
  18. Blast Furnace

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    I'll believe those "reports" when there is some meat to them.

    He's been a model citizen since being reinstated. He's not AB, he's not Bell, wasn't running his mouth like Bryant. Everything I heard is that he worked hard and just did what they asked of him.

    Again, I think people are missing the point that he just needed to do better than Moncrief. Are fans in love with Moncreif??? JW still would have gotten a chance to perform because he is a high draft pick. Holton is useless and your favorite, Switzer isn't even being used at WR anymore.

    They aren't bringing in anyone though and they could be so that tells me they are content. Go figure.
     
  19. groutbrook

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    Addiction isn't a character issue?
     
  20. DukeDukeDaDaDa

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    The "Steeler Way" is complete nonsense.
     
  21. DukeDukeDaDaDa

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    Moot point. Sorry I gotta be a grammar Nazi. But that's one of the most incorrectly used phrases lol.
     
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  22. Blast Furnace

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    Not what I'm talking about, was answering a question about him being a trouble maker over the course of his career.

    If we were talking about a draft pick, I wouldn't want to take the risk on a player with substance abuse problems but we are talking about a guy who has been clean for two years and could have possibly stepped in and gave us production where it has been lacking.
     
  23. cajunyankee

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    All good, I know the difference but in a rush and on my phone with distractions I messed it up..... seems to happen more lately too....... I fixed it

    Cajun
     
  24. SDOT

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    It use to mean something.
     
  25. DukeDukeDaDaDa

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    Maybe. But this moral high ground that fans like to put the Steelers organization on imo has never existed.
     

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