Trade Deadline

Since the deadline is only less than a week away, do we see any other trades happening within the organization?? Players coming in... or potentially going out??
I was kind of hoping some team would be desperate enough to reach out to us for Burns.. but haven't heard too much chatter on him..

 

I highly doubt that any more trades will happen.

a) Two have already been made
b) There's not a lot draft capital left to trade for players
c) Trading for draft picks would signal that the FO has decided the season is gone. Not likely.

 

Or trying to improve your team going forward!

 

Ben and others massive contracts have put us in a bind. The whole OL
is very well paid and not performing at a high level. Dupree/ Burns/Hayden are over paid.
When players become Fa you must not overpay, but be competitive
because this will throw off your ability to acquire talent. We have some
players (minka) (Watt) (JUJU) that will want a lot of money going forward.
This is why advance scouting is so important. NE just picked up a key ST player
from Balt.because of a funky formula regarding distribution of compensation
regarding players acquired from other teams. This is why the tried and true method
is still thru the draft. But sometimes you have to be able to pull the trigger(see Minka)
a very great signing by our FO.

 

I find what some of these guys write a joke. I have to share this on I read from CBS:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...h-should-target-led-by-three-time-pro-bowler/

Bennett......no effin way, this is the kind of player that might have be throw in my fan card.

Skipper.......was cut after this article came out

Boyd.........never gonna happen in division.

Allen.........I would love this but we just don't have the chips to make it happen.

I am thinking at this point we stay put, we made moves already and don't have the picks to make the "big" move we may need. Also injuries have pilled up making it hard to give up any players, however if someone would take Moncreif I am all in on that.

 

We dont have any trade capital we gave it all away for bush and minkah, I wont be surprised to see the cards trade patrik peterson since the saints, pats, eagles, chiefs are calling them about a trade.....

 

You wouldn't get much in return for Burns, probably a 6th or 7th round pick.

 

He's completely untradeable.

a) he's not good
b) he's a UFA after this year

It's not clear to me that he's any better than any player on a practice squad somewhere which you could pick up without giving up a draft pick.

 

The Minka signing was to me proof that the FO and our defensive guru HC have failed miserably for a decade in drafting a play making DB. This is not to be celebrated but seen for what it is. Yes, we needed to do it but the question, at the grass roots level, why? Looks like with our giving draft picks away we are counting on other teams to audition players that we can over spend to get later on. So, instead of spending one draft pick on a good DB, we now are spending multiple picks like we just did. How long has it been since we drafted a DB worthy of a 1st round pick? With that said, its water under the bridge and we'll just have to see how things turn out in the long run. First, lets hope we can dispose of Miami the way they should being heavy underdogs, and we have 2 weeks to prep, and we are at home.

 

If we lose Monday they better have some trades ready. You got some rentals that teams might like. Dupree, Hargrave, Burns, and Barron.

If they think they can do better in trades than they can in compensatory picks, go for it. Plus, they'll have to wait a year if/when they get those picks.

 

Difficult to not overpay and be competitive when the front office can't draft key positions. The drafting of defensive positions other than d-line have been have been atrocious, especially in the secondary. Those are expensive positions to fill in free agency when you can't have a continual changing of the guard as young talent comes up and you can let players walk in free agency. The huge saving grace had been the appeal of our legacy as a franchise getting people to want to play and be a steeler. If we didn't have that we would be in worse shape, but they need to clean it up fast before that starts to fade.

 

I agree with the drafting argument. I don't see a problem trading for a Fitzpatrick in that specific situation (1st round talent, super young, NFL caliber) because a trainwreck of a franchise trying to dump good players for really no reason other than just trying to do it. A lot of good teams make these trades to solidify areas with a known commodity at a fair price. My only problem is that it works for a good team when you know you are giving away a late round pick, but we're are no sure thing to not have a high pick, so that I don't like. If we end up trading a top 5-10 pick for Fitzpatrick that is not a bargain.

 

I've got no problem whatsoever with losing their 1st for Fitz. I'm honestly over DB's and OLB's busting... So I simply view it as not wasting the pick they'd have as its already been wisely spent.

 

Hey Dobbler-33.

Yes, The Fitzpatrick trade was a good one, and one of necessity. One only knows this administration is incapable of drafting a top notch secondary player. So, we might as well of had the Dolphins do it for us. I have no problem whatsoever with this trade. Especially, given that our Secondary Guru of a Head Coach is incapable of doing it (Just Disgusting). Wow, just think about for a minute or two, all of the secondary flops, and LBs for that matter, that have come through this regime. At least some of the LBs (Timmons and Woodley worked out.) I can not say that for one Secondary player. Maybe just maybe Keenan Lewis? Where is he now anyway? It was not like he was All-World but he was good. STEELWINDS

 

Who would want Barron? He looks like a bust so far and he is coming off an injury.

Nobody is going to want Burns. He sucks and his contract is up at the end of the season.

Dupree is overpaid, but as a rental for a little more than half a season, somebody might bite. Hargrave is the most attractive trade chip, but I still wonder how much value that is.

 

Bengals might want Chickillo now that he is a thug.

 

This is from NFL.COM:

The Jets are open to dealing defensive end Leonard Williams, wide receiver Robby Anderson, and would like to trade cornerback Trumaine Johnson -- who isn't expected to have a market because of his salary and play. If Williams leaves in free agency, he'd likely command a third-round compensatory pick, so that figures to be the floor of what the Jets would ask in return. Anderson is another one who could leave in free agency, and the team is open to a trade.

The reason I am posting this is Leonard Williams. Lets say we win big tomorrow night are we serious about the playoffs and if so with the Tuitt injury this might make sense. I know we are short of picks already but when I read this I thought he is a good fit for us right now. Thoughts?

 

If we lose to a winless team who is trying hard to tank their season, there should be a whole new front office and coaching staff working on those trades Tuesday morning.

 

I dunno, hes not produced much this season. I’d be wary of trading a third for a half year rental. A lower pick (like with Vannett) I’m ok with, but doubt the Jets would be.

 

Hey Dobbler-33

I am good with the trade. Management would have probably screwed it up in the draft anyway given their track record for selecting DBs. It is beyond atrocious. It is disgusting! Might as well let another team that is competent in that department to do the work for us since our management is obviously not up to the task.

Maybe I am given Miami a little too much credit since they do stink for the most part. However, for this particular move they seem to have gotten it right. Even if they get an All-World player with our first, I still believe Minkah is going to be, and already is, a huge asset for us. It was a pretty straight-forward trade one for one. No problem with it. STEELWINDS

 

Robby Anderson could help the Steelers but his off the field issues are just too much to handle. In 2018 he was clocked driving at 105 mph in a 45 mph zone while blowing through several red lights. Then the class act that he is he threatened to rape the arresting officers wife.

 

I would love to have Leonard Williams. That dude is really good. That said, I doubt we make the move. Keep in mind that his fifth year option is coming up soon. Add the fact that the team is likely to keep Dupree and acquiring Leonard will be more complex than simply obtaining him via a trade.

 

No need to send what chips we have left off into the dip to any team. Time to make do with what they have.

They already inherited a decision come season finale with the trade to Seattle for Vannett. We'll find out what he thinks he's worth but I'd be good with keeping him around. Will be interesting to see how Minkah fairs in his request. Is he going to deman pay sooner, or square his deal and then we deal with it? Never know with kids these days.

 

Yeah I get giving up a pick for him but I do believe he comes with a 3rd round comp pick would that make a difference? Also is there a player we send with the pick, maybe we send Moncrief and a 4th? IDK if that is even an option just throwing it out there. What I do know is before Tuitt went down this defense was finding it's groove. Getting someone to fill Tuitt's hole would help keeping that side of the ball dominant. jmo