Any Update on Mason?

To be clear, this is not at all related to groutbrook even though I'm following his post.

That said, there are many examples of people posting on this thread who are speaking out of the wrong ends of their anatomies. In other words, some of y'all really don't know what you are talking about regarding concussions.

If the person lost consciousness, as Rudolph did, it is a concussion. It is possible to have a concussion without losing consciousness, but being knocked out is suffering a concussion.

On the other end of the spectrum, according to UPMC, whether or not the person lost consciousness is not indicative of the length of recovery. In some cases, there is correlation between losing consciousness and a shorter recovery.

https://share.upmc.com/2015/04/concussion-and-loss-of-consciousness/?vwo=social-pages_secondary-nav

A quick recovery can be less than a week, though normally the recommended time for an athlete to be asymptomatic before being cleared is at least seven days. That doesn't mean seven days from the injury, but seven days from the last time the athlete suffers any symptoms at all.

A recovery of 21 days or longer is considered long, so the hysterical responses that Rudolph will sit out the rest of the season have little basis in fact. Of course, there are cases of concussions lingering for a long time. Pittsburgh sports fans should know that from Sydney Crosby.

(This is really weird. I'm trying to link a story about Crosby's concussion history, but when I hit save, I end up with a video from his first concussion.)

The most notable of Crosby's concussions was the one that ended his 2010-11 season and kept him out at the start of 2011-12, but it's worth noting that it could have been a case of Second Impact Syndrome, in which a person already has a concussion and suffers a second brain injury before recovering from the first. Those are extremely dangerous and far more likely to lead to permanent brain injury or death than a single concussion. Crosby suffered a concussion Jan 1, 2011 against the Capitals, but was allowed to play in the Penguins' next game four days later. He was hit from behind in that game and struggled to get off the ice, beginning his prolonged absence. No way in hell he should have been allowed to play in that second game.

On the one hand, that is ample reason for the Steelers to be careful with Rudolph, but the hysterics about a prolonged absence have little basis in fact.

 

I was an amateur boxer many years ago and suffered one really bad knockout and the doctor told me that any time you lose consciousness from a blow to the head you always have a concussion.

 

I should have watched your video before I posted, the doctor explains what I was trying to say. I wasn't familiar with the 'fencing response' term, in the fighting world it's often referred to as getting 'starched' or 'slept'.

 

Cowboys are better than eagles

 

I believe he was of the KO'd variety. Looking at the initial hit, the defender hit Mason in the jaw area and this may have knocked him out. However, he did bang his head on the ground when falling and that could add to the severity of the hit. He walked off the field like a boxer with wobbly legs after a knock out punch. If the medical folks say he is ready, then he'll be ready and no one here knows what will actually happen. I just hope the Duck can continue to carry the load and someone is preparing to be his backup.

 

What about lingering concussion symptoms that keep reoccurring? Ala Ladarius Green & I'm sure he is not the only one. Just saying it's possible to be out for an extended period of time.

 

Anything is possible I guess when you’re dealing with the brain. Baseball players have missed months from running into walls that sometimes don’t even look that bad. Everyone responds differently I guess.

 

Well, my source is his family, namely his parents. They say he does not have a concussion. Now, maybe they are not being truthful or maybe Mason has told them to say that he does not have a concussion to keep his real condition under wraps.

Could be in absolute medical terms, he has a concussion. I don't know since I have not spoken with his doctor nor am I a neurologist. I was just passing on some information.

I would agree though that he should not play this week. At this writing, I have heard no news on go or no go. I think if he can, he will dress but not play. As I said in my post, it is just my opinion/guess on how and when they work him back in.

rutan

 

I had no idea there were so many doctors on this board. LOL.

Reports say Mason returned to practice today so that’s some good news.

 

Green had a history of concussions. Also, Rudolph was in meetings Monday. If he was having that kind of trouble, he wouldn’t be at work the next day. I did say extremely unlikely, not impossible that he is out a long time. Of course, he was also able to practice today. I’m sure it was limited, but that is further evidence that his absence is likely to be short.

 

Hope he didn't wake up thinking he is Ben.

 

The general fear is coming back too soon and suffering another one to compound the problem. That's what happened to Crosby and it extended his symptoms and recovery time significantly.

 

He got knocked out, it’s not uncommon for your legs to be out from under you lol. the brain isn’t sending signals downstairs anymore.

I’d rather be laid out with one big shot than to have a minor concussion nobody knows about and keep taking hits. There has been much worse. He will be back. It’s not one big hit that will ruin you it’s accumulation

 

I know right. “Oh my god his legs and arms are stiff” no **** it’s not as serious as some here are making. Saying his career is over

 

Actually, as far as what my eyes saw...Duck was playing better than he was anyway. I think too much is made as far as drafted position when a guy shows he can play.

 

Regarding Mason's recovery time, I would rather him wait. Concussions are still too difficult an injury to pinpoint. For that matter, too complex the same.



Even in the miraculous event that Mason plays Sunday and, I do say this out of respect for Mason, what difference would it make?! Randy Fichtner seems to be in over his head to me. When you have deploy the Wild-Cat in the second series of the game as opposed to letting your young Quarterback go out there and play, that is a VERY disturbing sign.




Why is that disturbing some may ask?! Why wait until a double digit deficit to open up the playbook more against your opponent?! Your division rival doubly and no less?!



Here is the answer; Fear. Nothing more to it than that. Randy is afraid to unleash Mason. This leads to the biggest shortcoming of Randy Fichtner's short Offensive Coordinating resume thus far:


Lack.


Of.


TRUST!!!

 

What if I stayed in a Holiday Inn last night; do I qualify?

 

what is the difference between getting knocked out and a concussion, I thought that when you get knocked out you get a concussion, Mason got a concussion, why are you PRing that he did not get a concussion?

 

Just need to see a receipt

 

He practiced on Wednesday so there’s that.

 

You are correct. If a person is knocked out, they suffered a concussion. Some people get confused because most of the time, people with concussions don't completely lose consciousness. As the research I posted earlier suggests, the ones that lead to a loss of consciousness can actually be milder ones that lead to a shorter recovery time. I know that sounds counter-intuitive, but that's what the research suggests.

If we are to assume rutan has a source that close to the situation, clearly that source does not fully understand what is going on. They probably heard that it was mild and Rudolph is recovering well and didn't realize it was still a concussion.

 

That is beyond insane. Guess he or his family don't really value his life and well-being.

 

That’s funny.
It’s ok to have an opinion, but you’re really going overboard don’t you think?
Consider this:
1- You’re not a doctor

2- Even if you were a doctor you haven’t examined Mason personally.

3- You can’t lump all concussions into one basket. I’m sure there’s different levels of severity.

4- The real doctors are evaluating Mason with all the resources at their fingertips.

5- You watched it happen on tv and come to the conclusion that he won’t see the field anytime soon and more than likely his career is over and his family has no regard for his well being.

6- You’re not a Doctor.

Now considering that you’ve already been proven wrong at least in the fact that he’s practicing. Do you think maybe you’re wrong about this or do you want to double down some more and continue to dig a bigger hole?

 

Trent Williams is currently holding out because the Redskins team doctors mistreated his injury. NFL teams are notorious for valuing wins and losses over the true well-being of their players.

I think this is the Steelers risking Rudolph's long term health for a chance to salvage this season. I personally find it disgusting. But I'm guessing you value wins more than the man's long term health.

Rudolph should not be on a football field a few days after looking like he might have died on the field. This is medical malpractice.