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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Rollers, Oct 6, 2019.

  1. DukeDukeDaDaDa

    DukeDukeDaDaDa Well-Known Member

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    Because they will continue to fight for that 8-8 record.
     
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  2. biggbunch68

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    :hmm::shrug: Not much diff between MR and Dobbs and they were offerd a pick for dobbs would be my guess....
     
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  3. Da Stellars

    Da Stellars Well-Known Member

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    Duck Dynasty looked better than Rudolph IMHO.

    Did we just waste all the draft picks on qbs for nothing?
     
  4. DukeDukeDaDaDa

    DukeDukeDaDaDa Well-Known Member

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    I think it's more likely Jacksonville asked about both MR and Dobbs and Steelers said MR is off limits.
    And there is a huge difference between the two in play style.
     
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  5. biggbunch68

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    N play style yes.
     
  6. Rush2seven

    Rush2seven Well-Known Member

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    It was a tough situation indeed. Go back to Patriots vs Falcons in the super bowl. Defense knew they would run, countered it.
     
  7. steel_ben7

    steel_ben7 Well-Known Member

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    Hodges did what he had to do for a 3rd string QB coming out of nowhere. He lead the Steelers to 10 points, made some plays with both his arm and his legs and got the Steelers the lead back with 3 minutes left.

    Like I had mentioned in another thread while the D made some plays and created turnovers they just for whatever reason cannot make THE play to win a game. When the Steelers were up 23-20 the D needed to stand up and not let the Ravens get into FG to tie it and even though the late hit call on Ola was a huge play and BS you still gotta overcome that and make some plays to win the game and this defense just does not do that.

    I thought Tomlin’s clock management as well before the half after the Hilton pick was god awful. He is terrible at using timeouts and he costs the Steelers big time there. I’m just sick of this team having to constantly overcome this horrible coaching of Butler, Fichtner, and especially Tomlin. This team will not win anything significant in terms of getting to another Super Bowl until all three of these guys go in my opinion.
     
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  8. NY STEELERFAN

    NY STEELERFAN Well-Known Member

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    I so agree with everything here. Hats off to Hodges he did what he needed to do and man while this D has played well we can't make THAT play when it matters.
     
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  9. Spencer

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    The game didn't look to big for him. Very happy with his performance. I do have a question about Rudolph, does he not play under center ?
     
  10. cral22

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    it doesn't hurt when refs throw a flag for a roughing the passer call on that last drive that even Dan Fouts himself (who literally hates the steelers and spends most of the game passive aggressively drop things like "thats not a completion" or "thats a penalty on the steelers") said that it was a horrendous call... which gave them 15 yards on 2nd and long instead of 3rd and long and forcing jackson to throw.
     
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  11. cral22

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    thats there play calling... Ben really hasnt the past couple years either... They love to run sideways on 3rd and 1 instead of throwing a fullback in and running straight.
     
  12. Formerscribe

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    The Steelers only had one timeout. They saved it to set up the field goal. It's not unreasonable. The coaching staff is a problem, but I don't think that was the best example.

    The defense did falter late, but the Ravens had some help in the form of a terrible call on that drive.
     
  13. strummerfan

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    17 sacks and 12 turnovers and steeler fans are still whining
     
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  14. Formerscribe

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    The Steelers are 1-4. You expect the fans to be happy?

    The defense has been bad more than it has been good this season. They were terrible against the Patriots and completely helpless in the second half of the losses to the Seahawks and 49ers. They were pretty good overall yesterday, but they did still fail with a chance to close out the Ravens with under three minutes remaining. The ridiculous roughing the passer call played a big role in that and overall I don't have an issue with the defense's performance Sunday, but there is still plenty of room for improvement.
     
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  15. strummerfan

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    The only game they were bad in was against the patriots. For three of the games the offense was completely inept and left them on the field for 80 plays a game. Defenses wear down when that happens. That sure as hell isnt butlers fault. There are times when his playcalling has left me scratching my head, but overall this defense is vastly improved. We are getting pressure and sacks. Additionally we are creating turnovers. Our 1-4 record is a result of the offenses complete inability to do anything.
     
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  16. TheTerribleOwl

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    I'd say that the defense's stand to start OT counts as making plays to win the game. We were in position to do so when (surprise!) the offense crapped the bed again. The defense is not the problem with this team right now.
     
  17. groutbrook

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    They didn't end up using the TO to set up the FG. I thought they should have called it with 28 seconds left at the 21 yard line. That way there was some time to work with, giving them more options than 2 passes outta the end zone. They ran one play and were down to 7 seconds. Plus a roughing the passer penalty reset the downs, so using a down on a spike to stop the clock wouldn't have been an issue.
     
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  18. NY STEELERFAN

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    Agreed, I have seen this in so many games this year. Team save the timeout and only get one play. Call the timeout with 28 seconds and get 2-3 plays at least. They got one play and had to rush it off not good management there imo
     
  19. NY STEELERFAN

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    I get what you are saying but number don't show it all. We can't get off the field on third and long and that is killing us. Our D plays great on first and second but falls on third down. The third and long conversions are killing us, jmo
     
  20. strummerfan

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    Try paying attention. Our offense hasn’t been able to do anything and is leaving the defense on the field for 80 plays a game. You’re not going to win many football games doing that. We are winning the turnover battle and losing. That is a huge anomaly and not the norm. Five turnovers in one game with only 6 points to show for it. The defense isn’t the problem.
     
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  21. Formerscribe

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    Butler has had defenses that get sacks, but that doesn't mean they are getting the job done. I get that the offense failing to control the ball is part of the problem, but the defense was completely helpless in the second halves against the Seahawks and 49ers. Butler absolutely must bear some of the responsibility for that, especially because they are still plagued by the ugly communication breakdowns that have been a signature of his defenses since he took over for LeBeau. They have problems, such as the inability to cover a tight end, that he can never seem to address.
     
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  22. biggbunch68

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    I know right !! Use to we could not buy a turnover and we would win, now they come in bucketfulls and we cant win:facepalm:
     
  23. Formerscribe

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    You can't count on the clock being reset. You also can't count on the play before the field goal attempt being an incomplete pass. I probably would have called it earlier, too, but I don't have a huge problem with how they played it.
     
  24. strummerfan

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    It was a 6-3 ball game in the third quarter against sf. We created 5 turnovers and lost. We lost because of the offense. You can try and slice and dice it any other way, but doing so is completely disingenuous. Same crap against. You leave any defense in the field for 80 plays you’re going to lose.
     
  25. Formerscribe

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    I didn't say the offense was good that day, but the defense faltered as well. Also, they didn't create five turnovers. At least two of those were gifts. The 49ers' ball security was a joke that day. Once they stopped being so careless, the Steelers' defense had few answers.
     
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