How hot??

Hey, at least Tomlin said, "we own it" again in his presser. That's gotta count for something.

 

I don’t think Ben being out for the season should give Tomlin a pass for the defense continuing to not be able to close out games and find ways to win this way. The defense is still Butler and Tomlin’s responsibility and they have to find ways like yesterday to help Rudolph out and makes stop and make a play when needed. There no more excuses on this defense. Their are 8 first round picks starting find a way to fix it and make some damn stops late in the 4th quarter when the game is on the line.

 

That one and we accept responsibility for it and we aren’t looking to seek comfort in our situation. It’s getting really old and tiresome to hear this crap from Tomlin after every loss.

 

if there ever was a team in desperate need of a new coaching staff and new leadership this is it . We have the talent to compete with anyone.

This was a game we should have been completely blown out if it were not for 5 turnovers by the niners. Luckily there were 5 turnovers so it kept us in the game . A good team would have destroyed the niners - instead we lose a game that should have been an easy victory. That loss had to be deflating to the players, especially those that were not sold
on Mason and our coaching staff.

 

93.7 "the fan" had this conversation this morning. Their take was that Tomlin will be back next year because of losing Ben for the year but both coordinator's will be fired. They said it was obvious yesterday that Ben is the real offensive coordinator.

 

Mike Tomlin after Steelers loss in San Francisco: 'We won't blink'

 

Its hard to blink when your so busy watching the game on the big screen.

 

Our O actually looked better with MR through 6 quarters then it did with Ben so I don’t know how much that says about Ben as the OC.

 

Colts are a good example as well. New coach, brought in a good DC, lost franchise qb, winning games.

 

Think he had a say in the playbook design? I expect no changes to it.

 

I like Frank's offensive philosophy.

 

The defense is doing well also.

If you watched the browns game last night they played with 4 replacements in the defensive backfield on a short week. They held their own.

 

Keith Butler has been in over his head since day one. Just cause Lebeau taught him does not mean he is a good teacher himself. When you bring in a coordinator simply cause he is the Heir apparent (to a system that needed to be updated to begin with) Does not mean that you will be successful.

The same Goes for Fichtner. He was made the OC simply cause he knew the system and cause Ben Liked him. Why did ben like him? Cause he lets Ben do whatever he wants.

This is simply not good coaching and shows where are true problems are. Are coaches are to concerned with being the players friends rather than being there boss which is what they are supposed to be.

Lets take two other teams for example:

The browns, they hired Kitchens based solely on the fact that he was available and Baker Mayfield Preferred him. Sounds like something similar right? Have you watched much of the browns this season? The offense is stacked (also sounds familiar right), Yet they underperform and they make no adjustments based upon what the other team is doing and some seriously questionable play calling (again sounds familiar).

Now lets look at the patriots. Brady is probably the QB with the most Pull in the league. hate him or not he has earned that right. Yet They do not hire coordinators or coaches that simply let him run amok and do whatever he wants. McDaniels (again hate him or not is a good OC and smart). He game plans and and adjusts to what the other team is doing. He holds Brady and the rest of the offense accountable and actually Brady listens and respects him and doesn't just do what he wants. McDaniels is also held accountable by the head coach.

Do you see the parallels here to our coaching and team? Coaches have to be above the players and demand accountability and respect or the team doesn't perform plain and simple. Players will not and can not play, game plan and coach themselves. They simply cant. I watched the niners yesterday come out and get manhandled by our D at first. Halftime they made adjustments and our D and Offense did not. You also can not blame the D for losing the game when they cause 5 turnovers and have spent the majority of the time on the field. Of course they were tired and gassed. They played probably 70 percent of the game cause we couldn't sustain a drive. Again this comes down to coaching not taking our backup quarterback and putting him in the best position to succeed. So many medium and longer passes (a common thing in this offense). Instead of short passes to build his confidence and open the game up.

Coaching (and ownership to an extent) is absolutely why this team is where they are at and has underperformed for a decade now. Tomlin simply is not a good coach. as I said in another thread, the man is supposed to be a Db specialist and has not developed a single DB in 13 years of being here (not one). That alone should be an indictment of his coaching ability. Too many players that have been held onto cause they were "his guys" and same with coaching staff. We will not be better until he is gone and we take some bold steps to make some changes to coaching and philosophy of this team. You have to adapt to the league as the league changes and we simply have not done that.

 

Who Ben or Mason? Ben? No doubt. MR? They probably focused on a handful of plays from the playbook that he was most comfortable with,I would imagine. I don’t expect major changes to the playbook but if they can ever establish a running game it will open up the play book and will allow for more play action. I think anyone expecting more out of Mason in his first game on the road especially,set their bar a little too high. Add to the fact the OL played so poorly the results are expected. Losing McDonald hurt as I think he was a big part of the game plan. I also don’t feel the game plan did MR any favors . Even Trent Green kept begging them to take a shot downfield. He rarely had the time as well but I think they could of stretched it once or twice. It’s gonna take a adjustment period for the entire O until they get comfortable with MR and how they game plan each week.

 

Ben. My guess is that they were banking on Ben not to get hurt. Scrambling now to find Mason's comfort zone & getting the offense familiar with play-action & such.

 

Nobody said this was a great team, Brady won their first 2 or 3 Super Bowls by their kicker making FGs .

 

Yeah because Miami has similar talent to New England , the Dolphins were 20 point underdogs to the Patriots last week. Even Belichick wouldn't win with that Miami roster.

 

I get that but you can’t blame a kicker for the losses and not give equal credit for the wins.

 

So many people have said it and its true, Ben's injury is his get out of jail free card.

 

I give credit to Boswell credit for being good and winning a lot of games in 2017, but he sucked in 2018 probably led to three losses.

 

Yes but you claimed we were a 13 win team and then blamed Boswell for not being a 11 or 12 win team without giving him credit for that....just saying.

 

This loss is on the offense, you have to score more than 6 points off of those 5 turnovers. Except fans like you after every loss start a lame fire Tomlin thread .

 

Bottom line Boswell didn't do his job in 2018, I'm sure he would admit that too.

 

The offense gave them the lead more then once. The defense had to hold leads for the offense. I'm not saying the offense did a bang up job but they got us leads. In the past two games I might add.

 

....and he exceeded expectations the year before. I’m sure you’ll admit that too