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Steelers Pass D through 2 weeks

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Jujubean, Sep 21, 2019.

  1. Jujubean

    Jujubean Well-Known Member

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    Combined

    54/72
    673 yards
    6 TD
    0 Int


    Fitzpatrick better be Ronnie Lott Reincarnated
     
  2. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

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    Hey man it’s better than 72/72


    #positivity
    #herewego
    #14gameSeasonStartsNow
    #rudolphshow
    #hatemylife
    #blackNgold
     
  3. AskQuestionsLater

    AskQuestionsLater Writing Team

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    Minkah Fitzpatrick has attributes that no other Free Safety in Steelers History has EVER had; range, recorvery speed and ball skills. That sounds truly unusual but that is how historically Pittsburgh's Free Safeties have been dating back to the merger. Mike Mitchell?! Ryan Clark?!?! Mike Wagner even?!?!.... maybe but I do not believe it is to the level of this guy.



    Regarding those stats, much of those stats happen in the slot. Your best weapon against the slot, this position called a Slot Cornerback, should be used. Guess what Keith Butler does?!?!?







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  4. Busman

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    I seriously question Butlers ability as a coach if they lose to the 49ers. This defense on paper is actually good to great.
     
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  5. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

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    It’s depressing lol

    Just fire the guy already if the defense sucks
     
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  6. Jujubean

    Jujubean Well-Known Member

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    Butler should have been fired two years ago. Absolutely absurd this loser is allowed to keep his job and produce garbage results. My fear is that he finally gets canned this season but TOMLIN gets another year. More wasted time
     
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  7. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Im a happy camper

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    And both may very well happen. :blink:
     
  8. AskQuestionsLater

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    Holy cow!!! You are telling me!! Nine First Round players on that defense. Should it be more of the same, I seriously hope Keith Butler is fired. If not, demote him.


    Promote Terryl Austin to Defensive Coordinator. He haa NFL Experience coaching a defense so the concept is not new to him. Give Tom Bradley full control of the secondary and use the offseason to find a Defensive Backs Assistant.



    Seriously should not be this difficult putting up results. Heck, Steve Spagunolo of the Kansas City Chiefs has done WONDERS for them. Given the fact that it takes time to understand a Spagnuolo defense given its complexity, what does that tell you about Butler?!?!
     
  9. Clive From PIT

    Clive From PIT I'm starting to drink the Koolaid! Site Admin

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    Against Tom Brady and Russell Wilson. Context matters.
     
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  10. thorn058

    thorn058 Well-Known Member

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    What's interesting is where the majority of the success against the pass defense has come from. Short passes on obvious mismatches of LB on WR or RB and long passes where the safety has been late to react or plainly out of position. If Fitz begins to solidify those mistakes it goes a long way towards fixing those problems.
     
  11. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

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    Even with Steelers elite defenses they couldn’t stop Brady. I think 2011 and 2018 were their best vs him. Both at home though.

    Wilson lit up Steelers both games
     
  12. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

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    Tuitt- really good
    Hargrave - good
    Cam- really good
    Watt- elite
    Bush- hopefully good
    Barron- average
    Bud-average
    Haden- really good
    Nelson- really good
    Edmunds- average
    Mink- supposedly elite

    That’s my objective perspective view on them and should warrant a top 10 defense by default alone.

    Top 5 defense if edmunds, bush, and OLA come up to par which I believe they will.
     
  13. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Agreed, but even considering that the results are pretty bad so far.
     
  14. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    I would call Barron below average, Haden average (at this point in his career), Edmunds below average, but ascending and Fitz really good, and ascending. Given the importance of the nickel I would add Hilton, below average (his play near the line of scrimmage is good, but coverage is very bad)
     

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