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Antonio Brown Mega Thread (Was: AB is upset he's being fined by the Raiders

Discussion in 'General NFL Talk' started by steelersrule6, Sep 4, 2019.

  1. Disco1981

    Disco1981 Well-Known Member

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  2. Disco1981

    Disco1981 Well-Known Member

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    Everybody keeps saying this but...The way I see it is, He got nothing from the Raiders...Got very little from the Cheatriots...BUT received the full amount from us ( Steelers ) Correct?
     
  3. BobbyBiz

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    No. He was done with his guarantees.
     
  4. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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  5. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    No cash from us this year. His $21 million cap number for us in 2019 was “dead money” due to salary cap rules governing how bonus dollars allocated to future years need to be booked against the cap immediately when a player is cut or traded. Those bonuses were paid out before this offseason.
     
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  6. Disco1981

    Disco1981 Well-Known Member

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    So...We SHOULD be I alot better shape cap wise next year
     
  7. DukeDukeDaDaDa

    DukeDukeDaDaDa Well-Known Member

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    Collect them all!
     
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  8. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Worse at the moment, but there are some things we can do to clear some space when the new league year starts.
     
  9. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Happy Holidays Yinz Jagoffs

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    I think we can feel a bit more comfortable now?
     
  10. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    He will play again, he will probably be facing a suspension though.
     
  11. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    There will be a lot of players coming off the cap next season:
    Dupree
    Burns
    Davis
    AB
    Hargrave
     
  12. Blast Furnace

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    I don't recall those reports coming from NE's camp, it's buried some where in these 60 pages on this thread.

    At any rate, I don't believe any team knew, I sure don't believe AB would reveal that to NE ahead of time.

    I believe that this was a resolved issue that was worked out months ago and a non story until AB renegaded on the terms of the settlement. Then it all became public.

    I also don't believe there was any manipulations going on and the fact that AB got himself thrown off 3 teams backs that up. He is just a highly unstable person. He was unhappy in Pittsburgh and Rosenhaus turned it into a positive by getting him a bigger contract which AB quickly ruined. NE jumped at the opportunity believing the Patriot way would set him on the right course, if AB couldn't adapt, he'd be cut. There was very little risk involved for NE and high reward. I don't believe any of this was calculated prior to AB getting released by the Raiders and certainly not while he was still with Pittsburgh. There is zero chance he walked away from more money with the Raiders to go play with NE for less.

    At most, Belichick put a call into Rosenhaus as he watched things falling apart in Oakland and told him there's a landing place for AB should he be released. Thats the extent of any tampering, IMO.
     
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  13. biggbunch68

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    I find it amusing that the Talking heads are making the Patriots out to be the "media darlings" of the NFL.:facepalm: Praise them for signing him, praise them for cutting him .. In their eyes Pats can do no wrong
     
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  14. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Go to overthecap.com or spotrac.com and take a look at our cap situation for 2020. We have a lot of high cap numbers on the O and D lines, plus Ben somewhere over $30 million. In addition to expiring contracts, we will likely need to part ways with a few players (like Chick, maybe Barron, maybe Moncrief, etc).
     
  15. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah but AB and Dupree that's $30 million right there coming off the cap, plus the cap goes up about $10 million each year.
     
  16. steelersrule6

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    I'm guessing he will be changing his lifestyle soon, since he blew $39 million guaranteed this year :facepalm:.
     
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  17. Disco1981

    Disco1981 Well-Known Member

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    I hope not Hargrave
     
  18. Lizard72

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    Nah, he's got his "Brand"...that's gonna make him bank.
     
  19. rocketdog

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    Brown hasn't been right since Vonteze Birthdefect concussed him in that 2015 po game.
     
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  20. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    That brand is tarnished right now
     
  21. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    He gone
     
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  22. DukeDukeDaDaDa

    DukeDukeDaDaDa Well-Known Member

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    I think so. Although still a good chance Pats get #7 but this will do I guess.
     
  23. Formerscribe

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    Roethlisberger's deal won't help in that regard.
     
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  24. Formerscribe

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    Brown would still be a Patriot if his former trainer's accusations hadn't come to light. That, the SI story and his idiotic reaction to those things were the end of the line and they were one thing nobody here knew about and I agree that it is most likely none of his teams knew about it.
     
  25. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Look... like you, I wanted to hold AB’s feet to the fire and make him honor the contract he signed. I thought that he would do what he needed to do to earn his salary and still be motivated to be the same superstar on the field, even if he had problems with some teammates. Like you I thought that the Steelers got fleeced by Rosenhaus, and that the 3rd and 5th were insufficient compensation. I’ve accepted that I was wrong about all of that.

    The issue that got AB cut by the Pats was the utterly moronic reaction to the SI story; the intimidation via group text. This action is consistent with the kind of impulsive, destructive behavior we’ve seen in recent years. The threatening of a reporter. The throwing of furniture off a balcony in a fit of rage. Driving 100 MPH in 40 zone (or whatever the numbers were). I’m sure there were others that the Steelers saw in-house. I think it’s reasonable to surmise that Steelers we’re correctly convinced that his behavior had hit a tipping point where they could no longer keep a lid on the cyclone that AB has become, and they needed to part ways and try to get something in return. In another thread you said that the rape allegation was a game changer. It clearly wasn’t a game changer because the Pats moved forward and put him on the field. It wasn’t until he blatantly intimidated an accuser via a group text on the Pats’ watch that they cut him.

    While the information was new, the downward spiral in behavior was not. I accept that the Steelers did the right thing and I was wrong in my criticism about how they handled AB last offseason. To me it’s obvious.
     
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